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D.A. Evosirch
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Just purchased CC:E as a birthday present for a gamer friend. We have both been enjoying it greatly as a fun alternative to both Memoir '44 and Tide of Iron.

We are both used to heavier maps and were wondering if it would be worth laminating the double-sided paper maps. Has anyone done this? Any problems with laminating the maps?

Certainly this will prevent storage in the box. Another concern is that the chits may be extra "slippy" on the laminated surface.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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Mark Christopher
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When I play CC, I just slip the map and charts into a cheap poster frame. The kind with the plastic frame edge bits to hold the clear plastic face to the backing. Works wonderfully.
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I have just been thinking about doing the same thing with my maps.

I just got the 22" x 34" Paths of Glory map laminated. It's also made of paper (much thinner and more fragile than the CC maps) It worked great!

Even though the surface is more "slippery" the chits stay in place better as those creases that the chits like to slide off of are gone.....the map is flat and it looks great.

Well worth the effort.
 
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D.A. Evosirch
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Thanks for the input, guys!

Mark -- I have a poster frame exactly like what you mention. I will take it to our game session tomorrow and try it out.

John -- I think we will go for laminating one map and seeing how we feel about it. My opponent is a high school teacher, so he has access to all the fun teacher tools. Thanks for the reply!

I'll post here with the results of the poster plan and the laminate project.
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Or just use a sheet of plexiglass and put the map under it.
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I store my maps unfolded in an artist's portfolio case. When I play the game, I just place the map under plexiglass to play. Protects the maps nicely without the cost (and weight) of laminated maps.
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D.A. Evosirch
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Re: Laminated Maps for CC:E -- Now with bonus card case question!
That is the problem with BGG -- ask a question and you get several good answers. Now which one will we choose?

I think we will try the plexi from the poster frame tomorrow and see what we think. The "cost" of laminating is not a factor, so it still may be a possibility.

Thanks again, everyone.

While I have the discussion going, does anyone know the size of the cards? I want to order card cases this afternoon and I'm not sure what to purchase (I don't have the game).
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Standard American Size (2.5" x 3.5") cards in CC.
 
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Plexiglass is the way to go for me, I find its easier to use and doesnt make the maps all crinkly or slippery like laminating does , they are easier to fold if they are just paper and helps their resale/trade value

Michaels normally has a sale on the poster frames, and Home Depot sells the thicker 1/8th inch ( 3mm) stuff and thats what I used

then again, using a game that has mounted boards is great , the older ASL ones are very well done
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I would go with the plexiglass if I were you. Laminate does contain acid which will eventually destroy your map (albeit in 15-20 years, most likely) and it's not reversible.
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i would chose plexiglass anytime because it looks better than laminated maps.
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D.A. Evosirch
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Thanks, everyone. We are going with the plexi solution. I wasn't aware that laminating would eventually destroy the paper.
 
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UPDATE: The plexiglass solution was effective. Thanks everyone.

Now if I could only learn how to shuffle those cards. Nothing like a hand of FOUR Command Confusion cards to start a game off right.
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For myself, I rather like seeing a fistful of Command Confusion in the opening hand (for most nationalities). Makes the first turn easy (discard) and reduces the likelihood of Command Confusion jamming things up later in the first deck.
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This could pose a problem if you are the defender and your opponent takes the first turn. There's nothing worst that the enemy probing for danger, determining all your men and leaders are suffering from a serious hangover, then charging past your fields of fire without a worry in the world! blush
 
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Poster frames work well and allow you to move the game in progress, if needed.
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