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Wulf Corbett
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Not really game-related, but I'd like to thank Phil Eklund & Sierra Madre games for introducing me to the theory of the Bicameral mind! I've started doing some reading about it, and it's fascinating! I have a question though - how accessible is Julian Jayne's "Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" (such a catchy title...)? As an intellectual grazer, I have a decent understanding of the concepts, but is this likely to lose me in a morass of references, terminology, and assumed previous knowledge?

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I'm not an anthropologist, psychologist or student of the history of the evolution of thought... but I gave the book a serious attempt a couple years back. Sadly, I'm afraid I found it to be a morass of references, terminology, and assumed previous knowledge. Your milage, of course, may vary.
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Funny you bring that up ... I'm just in the middle of reading Jaynes's book. It definitely is not an easy read, but I can grasp it (more or less) even though I'm neither a neuroscientist nor an ancient Greek scholar. There are some difficult sections (namely the beginning, where Jaynes defines consciousness), but there are also very lucid sections (even poetic for a scientific book).
For me, it's not so much a morass of references or terminology, but a morass of thoughts never thought before, concerning religion, history, psychology and about everything else. Read it, it's both exhausting and mind-blowing.
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So, did you get the book?
 
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I did, yes. Slightly damaged spine, but cheap, from Amazon Used & New (used, of course). Still to make solid headway into it, but coping with the initial chapters
 
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Great to hear that you joined the ride.
Coping would be the right term for my reading, too. I make slow progress. Every other page I find myself pondering and wondering and wandering off in thoughts. But that is a plus in my (or Jaynes') book.
 
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guns germs and steel by jared diamond got me thinking a game like this would be great..

Phil delivered!
looking to find and play this.
 
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