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Discussion in Age of Steam Forums.
Discussion in General forums including Martin's claim that FRED have altered the contract since it was signed.
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So does this force my hand to buy a copy now? If they win, will Steam be pulled from production?
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Here's Martin Wallace's comment on the issue referenced from one of the threads listed above, I echo others' response to this: Wow.

Martin's comment



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Major SNAFU wrote:
So does this force my hand to buy a copy now? If they win, will Steam be pulled from production?


Not in the least. Mayfair Games did nothing wrong when their CEO, Will Niebling, signed an Age of Steam contract with Martin Wallace in January 2007. They simply believed what Martin told them.

After Mayfair discovered the truth, Will Niebling's 10 years at Mayfair Games ended in June 2007 and he now works at another company.

When I filed my Trademark Opposition in August 2007, multiple Warfrog people publicly wrote, on BGG and other venues, that they had evidence that Martin Wallace designed Age of Steam, owned Age of Steam, etc. Mayfair dutifully hired an excellent Chicago-based Patent & Trademark law firm to contest my Opposition and waited for this evidence from Warfrog.

The promised Warfrog evidence never materialized. In contrast, in June 2008, Ms. Kuczma, Martin's zealous, very experienced Trademark Attorney, had 67 evidentiary exhibits from Winsome supporting my Opposition. Their case evaporated. Judgement was entered against Martin Wallace by the Trademark Trial & Appeal Board in July 2008.

The only thing Mayfair Games did wrong was believing Martin Wallace without checking the facts. They did not oppose my subsequent 2008 Trademark Application for Age of Steam (now a Registered Trademark, Reg. No. 3,622,075), so they have learned from their experience with Martin Wallace.

Mayfair Games is a great company and its President, Larry Roznai is a good, honest man. When Larry told me in a conversation that they wanted to call the new game Steam, I told him that was OK by me. Mayfair was just a trusting victim and we all wish them well.
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John Bohrer wrote:
Major SNAFU wrote:
So does this force my hand to buy a copy now? If they win, will Steam be pulled from production?


Not in the least. Mayfair Games did nothing wrong when their CEO, Will Niebling, signed an Age of Steam contract with Martin Wallace in January 2007. They simply believed what Martin told them.

After Mayfair discovered the truth, Will Niebling's 10 years at Mayfair Games ended in June 2007 and he now works at another company.

When I filed my Trademark Opposition in August 2007, multiple Warfrog people publicly wrote, on BGG and other venues, that they had evidence that Martin Wallace designed Age of Steam, owned Age of Steam, etc. Mayfair dutifully hired an excellent Chicago-based Patent & Trademark law firm to contest my Opposition and waited for this evidence from Warfrog.

The promised Warfrog evidence never materialized. In contrast, in June 2008, Ms. Kuczma, Martin's zealous, very experienced Trademark Attorney, had 67 evidentiary exhibits from Winsome supporting my Opposition. Their case evaporated. Judgement was entered against Martin Wallace by the Trademark Trial & Appeal Board in July 2008.

The only thing Mayfair Games did wrong was believing Martin Wallace without checking the facts. They did not oppose my subsequent 2008 Trademark Application for Age of Steam (now a Registered Trademark, Reg. No. 3,622,075), so they have learned from their experience with Martin Wallace.

Mayfair Games is a great company and its President, Larry Roznai is a good, honest man. When Larry told me in a conversation that they wanted to call the new game Steam, I told him that was OK by me. Mayfair was just a trusting victim and we all wish them well.


Thank you for that most excellent reply.

Steam is still a "maybe" for me as I read more and more reviews about it. I own RRT, but not AOS because my family (whom I game mostly with) would not enjoy it. But I cannot make up my mind if the new stuff in Steam offsets sufficiently some of things it doesn't have from RRT (like the train chits, etc.)

Anyway, thanks for the response. It is refreshing to read a respnse lile that which seem fair and even-handed.
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John Bohrer wrote:
Major SNAFU wrote:
So does this force my hand to buy a copy now? If they win, will Steam be pulled from production?


Not in the least. Mayfair Games did nothing wrong when their CEO, Will Niebling, signed an Age of Steam contract with Martin Wallace in January 2007. They simply believed what Martin told them.

After Mayfair discovered the truth, Will Niebling's 10 years at Mayfair Games ended in June 2007 and he now works at another company.

When I filed my Trademark Opposition in August 2007, multiple Warfrog people publicly wrote, on BGG and other venues, that they had evidence that Martin Wallace designed Age of Steam, owned Age of Steam, etc. Mayfair dutifully hired an excellent Chicago-based Patent & Trademark law firm to contest my Opposition and waited for this evidence from Warfrog.

The promised Warfrog evidence never materialized. In contrast, in June 2008, Ms. Kuczma, Martin's zealous, very experienced Trademark Attorney, had 67 evidentiary exhibits from Winsome supporting my Opposition. Their case evaporated. Judgement was entered against Martin Wallace by the Trademark Trial & Appeal Board in July 2008.

The only thing Mayfair Games did wrong was believing Martin Wallace without checking the facts. They did not oppose my subsequent 2008 Trademark Application for Age of Steam (now a Registered Trademark, Reg. No. 3,622,075), so they have learned from their experience with Martin Wallace.

Mayfair Games is a great company and its President, Larry Roznai is a good, honest man. When Larry told me in a conversation that they wanted to call the new game Steam, I told him that was OK by me. Mayfair was just a trusting victim and we all wish them well.


Why do you still care about this? Yes we all know that you won the trademak case, can we all move on now? As far as I can tell this lawsuit has nothing to do with the Wallace vs. Bohrer feud so why are you still bringing this up again and again? Hell I don't understand why you are reading the Steam forums.

Move on for God's sake.

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Major SNAFU wrote:
So does this force my hand to buy a copy now? If they win, will Steam be pulled from production?


The quick answer is no. FRED is suing Martin Wallace for money damages. If they wanted Mayfair to stop selling Steam, they would have to be suing Mayfair for an injunction.
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Major SNAFU wrote:
Steam is still a "maybe" for me as I read more and more reviews about it. I own RRT, but not AOS because my family (whom I game mostly with) would not enjoy it.


Go buy Chicago Express and do yourself a favour
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iamspoo wrote:
John Bohrer wrote:
Major SNAFU wrote:
So does this force my hand to buy a copy now? If they win, will Steam be pulled from production?


Not in the least. Mayfair Games did nothing wrong when their CEO, Will Niebling, signed an Age of Steam contract with Martin Wallace in January 2007. They simply believed what Martin told them.

After Mayfair discovered the truth, Will Niebling's 10 years at Mayfair Games ended in June 2007 and he now works at another company.

When I filed my Trademark Opposition in August 2007, multiple Warfrog people publicly wrote, on BGG and other venues, that they had evidence that Martin Wallace designed Age of Steam, owned Age of Steam, etc. Mayfair dutifully hired an excellent Chicago-based Patent & Trademark law firm to contest my Opposition and waited for this evidence from Warfrog.

The promised Warfrog evidence never materialized. In contrast, in June 2008, Ms. Kuczma, Martin's zealous, very experienced Trademark Attorney, had 67 evidentiary exhibits from Winsome supporting my Opposition. Their case evaporated. Judgement was entered against Martin Wallace by the Trademark Trial & Appeal Board in July 2008.

The only thing Mayfair Games did wrong was believing Martin Wallace without checking the facts. They did not oppose my subsequent 2008 Trademark Application for Age of Steam (now a Registered Trademark, Reg. No. 3,622,075), so they have learned from their experience with Martin Wallace.

Mayfair Games is a great company and its President, Larry Roznai is a good, honest man. When Larry told me in a conversation that they wanted to call the new game Steam, I told him that was OK by me. Mayfair was just a trusting victim and we all wish them well.


Why do you still care about this? Yes we all know that you won the trademak case, can we all move on now? As far as I can tell this lawsuit has nothing to do with the Wallace vs. Bohrer feud so why are you still bringing this up again and again? Hell I don't understand why you are reading the Steam forums.

Move on for God's sake.


But the Wallace vs. Bohrer feud also has been in Wallace's favour on this site (at least the posts I have read) regarding support and "facts", and all notes I read made me also come to that conclusion. So how could Wallace then fail to win that (whatever it was that was won)?

Wallace states something regarding this lawsuit. He stated other things regarding the feud. Bohrer still won. Maybe Bohrer just means that FRED will win regardless.

I might have missed some posts too that might have given more info one way or the other but that's my take.

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[q=...they had evidence that Martin Wallace designed Age of Steam/q]

Is it true that Martin Wallace didn't design 'Age of Steam'? That's amazing!
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John Borher wrote:
Not in the least. Mayfair Games did nothing wrong when their CEO, Will Niebling, signed an Age of Steam contract with Martin Wallace in January 2007. They simply believed what Martin told them.

After Mayfair discovered the truth, Will Niebling's 10 years at Mayfair Games ended in June 2007 and he now works at another company.


Are you saying that Martin Wallace willfully lied to Mayfair, and that Will Niebling was fired as a result? Also, are you claiming that you are the legal designer of Age of Steam?
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Major SNAFU wrote:
John Bohrer wrote:
Major SNAFU wrote:
So does this force my hand to buy a copy now? If they win, will Steam be pulled from production?


Not in the least. Mayfair Games did nothing wrong when their CEO, Will Niebling, signed an Age of Steam contract with Martin Wallace in January 2007. They simply believed what Martin told them.

After Mayfair discovered the truth, Will Niebling's 10 years at Mayfair Games ended in June 2007 and he now works at another company.

When I filed my Trademark Opposition in August 2007, multiple Warfrog people publicly wrote, on BGG and other venues, that they had evidence that Martin Wallace designed Age of Steam, owned Age of Steam, etc. Mayfair dutifully hired an excellent Chicago-based Patent & Trademark law firm to contest my Opposition and waited for this evidence from Warfrog.

The promised Warfrog evidence never materialized. In contrast, in June 2008, Ms. Kuczma, Martin's zealous, very experienced Trademark Attorney, had 67 evidentiary exhibits from Winsome supporting my Opposition. Their case evaporated. Judgement was entered against Martin Wallace by the Trademark Trial & Appeal Board in July 2008.

The only thing Mayfair Games did wrong was believing Martin Wallace without checking the facts. They did not oppose my subsequent 2008 Trademark Application for Age of Steam (now a Registered Trademark, Reg. No. 3,622,075), so they have learned from their experience with Martin Wallace.

Mayfair Games is a great company and its President, Larry Roznai is a good, honest man. When Larry told me in a conversation that they wanted to call the new game Steam, I told him that was OK by me. Mayfair was just a trusting victim and we all wish them well.


Thank you for that most excellent reply.



You are welcome.
 
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Major SNAFU wrote:
Steam is still a "maybe" for me as I read more and more reviews about it. I own RRT, but not AOS because my family (whom I game mostly with) would not enjoy it.


Go buy Chicago Express and do yourself a favour


Get both. Both games are excellent, I own both of them.
They have different emphasis, Chicago moreso about investing in the right companies whereas in Steam you run your own business intricately. Love both of them (PS, no shares in Steam)
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