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Poll: Can't We All Just Get Along?
1. What do you WANT to be the end legal result of the FRED Distribution vs Martin Wallace lawsuit?
Case will go to trial & FRED will win all of the damages they are seeking.
Case will go to trial & FRED will win the some of of damages they are seeking.
Case will be settled & FRED will get all/nearly all of what they are seeking.
Case will be settled & FRED will get ~ 50% of what they are seeking.
Case will be settled & FRED will get very little of what they are seeking.
Case will go to trial & FRED will lose and get none of what they are seeking.
2. What do you THINK will be the end legal result of the FRED Distribution vs Martin Wallace lawsuit?
Case will go to trial & FRED will win all of the damages they are seeking.
Case will go to trial & FRED will win the some of of damages they are seeking.
Case will be settled & FRED will get all/nearly all of what they are seeking.
Case will be settled & FRED will get ~ 50% of what they are seeking.
Case will be settled & FRED will get very little of what they are seeking.
Case will go to trial & FRED will lose and get none of what they are seeking.
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lamplite wrote:
Where's the option CLS Games loses business because they use crap like this just to generate publicity for their business and also thumb their own post in an attempt to boost it into a hot thread,

Those are a certainty, so we really do not need a poll question about them

BTW, did you know that there is a geekbadge for thumbing oneself?



EDIT...OK, a few minutes have passed since our initial response and we have started to feel guilty about blowing off your request for CLS Games Poll, so here you go. We hope this is what you had in mind.
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Who is the biggest attention-grabbing, self-serving, conceited, egomaniacal, narcissistic, thinks-he-knows-it-all, self-thumbing S.O.B on Board Game Geek?
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lamplite wrote:
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BTW, did you know that there is a geekbadge for thumbing oneself?

Why yes I did and it should be displayed between the one for I pick my nose in pubic and the one for I write on truckstop bathroom walls.

I actually own the nose picking one (my wife got it for me for our anniversary), but did not know about the writing on truckstop bathroom walls one. What would be really cool is if they had one for nose picking in truckstop bathrooms!
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You messed up on your poll and left the most important one out. How about for the truth to come out and it be settled according to what the law says?

I know this is quite novel in this day and age when we want to take polls to determine guilt or innocence, incarcation or freedom. Just my take...
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May I please have the option of "Who gives a flying crap" added to these polls? Thanks.
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Al Johnson wrote:
How about for the truth to come out and it be settled according to what the law says?


I'm less convinced there is a singular truth.
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Al Johnson wrote:
How about for the truth to come out and it be settled according to what the law says?


I'm less convinced there is a singular truth.


Indeed. In the absence of sensible solid contracts, it's perfectly possible for two different parties to walk away from a negotiation believing that they own something. So what is truth in that case?

Of course, it's also perfectly possible for people to choose to ignore otherwise solid contracts because they don't accord with how they want the world to be.

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I think I am more interested in the net effect on my world? I am not sure there will be any at all. I guess on the far end of the spectrium of improbable but possible outcomes could be: 1. MW never makes another game. 2. FRED starts allowing retailers to price their games as they wish.
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May I please have the option of "Who gives a flying crap" added to these polls? Thanks.


Agreed.
 
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UndeadViking wrote:
May I please have the option of "Who gives a flying crap" added to these polls? Thanks.


Agreed.


It exists. It's in a little bar in the top of your web browser. I'm really surprised you haven't noticed the button before.
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Al Johnson wrote:
How about for the truth to come out and it be settled according to what the law says?


Bah....that is sooooo old school. Nobody has done that since before O.J.
 
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Al Johnson wrote:
You messed up on your poll and left the most important one out. How about for the truth to come out and it be settled according to what the law says?


my option would read something like "mutually agreeable resolution achieved and all lawsuits dropped".

 
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I think I am more interested in the net effect on my world? I am not sure there will be any at all. I guess on the far end of the spectrium of improbable but possible outcomes could be: 1. MW never makes another game. 2. FRED starts allowing retailers to price their games as they wish.


As of this week, #2 is now true.
 
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You left out favorite idea for #1, which would be the judge orders MW and FRED to fight it out with pillowcases filled with horseshit.
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You left out favorite idea for #1, which would be the judge orders MW and FRED to fight it out with pillowcases filled with horseshit.


Personally, I would pay real money to see them duel with disintegration ray guns at 50 paces...

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Where's the option CLS Games loses business because they use crap like this just to generate publicity for their business and also thumb their own post in an attempt to boost it into a hot thread.

edit: comma at the end magically becomes a period.


Well Larry, you sound like a real 'Mr Poopy-pants'. Get out of bed on the wrong side this morning did we?

Clearly Robert Solow's business is going very slowly at the moment and he does stuff like this just to stop from going to sleep during the day.

Just leave him be - he can't really help himself and he is fairly harmless.
 
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I think this settles it. Gamers love Wallace and hate FRED!!!


I never understood this sentimental attachment to some guy just because his name appears on some box covers.

Next you'll tell me people will vote someone Governor, or even President, just because they saw that person in the movies. whistle
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J.L.Robert wrote:
MikeDowd wrote:
I think this settles it. Gamers love Wallace and hate FRED!!!


I never understood this sentimental attachment to some guy just because his name appears on some box covers.

Next you'll tell me people will vote someone Governor, or even President, just because they saw that person in the movies. whistle


I think it is a little more serious than that. Martin is a person while FRED is an organization. That makes FRED appear more powerful and consequently people support Martin as they see him as the underdog - people love the underdog.

If we look at it differently, this appears to be a follow-on from the Wallace vs Winsome/Bohrer dispute. In that case Martin appears to be the creator of the AoS game while John appears to be trying to take credit for the game and make money from something that is not his own design. Again, many people see Martin as being the one who is taken advantage of.

Regardless of the actual rights and wrongs of the issues (and I don't know the full facts to make a judgement) I think it fair to say that members of the legal profession involved in resolving the dispute will be the real winners in a financial sense. I think that it is a genuine shame that all parties involved in the dispute have not been able to go to the table in a spirit of honesty and goodwill to resolve the dispute in a manner that is fair to all parties.

My concern is that if there is a loser and that loser has to 'go to the wall' then the gaming community will also be losers.
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MikeDowd wrote:
I think this settles it. Gamers love Wallace and hate FRED!!!


Yabba-dabba-doh.
 
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MikeDowd wrote:
J.L.Robert wrote:
MikeDowd wrote:
I think this settles it. Gamers love Wallace and hate FRED!!!

I never understood this sentimental attachment to some guy just because his name appears on some box covers.

Next you'll tell me people will vote someone Governor, or even President, just because they saw that person in the movies. whistle

Not sure what's sentimental about it. Everything Wallace has worked on has been a great experience for me, while FRED has always been a let down with their shoddy components. Wallace cares about the gamer, while FRED doesn't give a damn.

A good game design suddenly means he's a humanitarian? What?!

If FRED didn't care about gamers, why would they produce games?

You're demonstrating the exact knee-jerk reaction I commented about. I don't see how you connected those dots.
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J.L.Robert wrote:

A good game design suddenly means he's a humanitarian? What?!

If FRED didn't care about gamers, why would they produce games?

You're demonstrating the exact knee-jerk reaction I commented about. I don't see how you connected those dots.


Clearly someone has been neglecting to drink their kool-aid.

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I need a comment I can understand here.


Oh buggar, I've just thumbed myself.
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I think I am more interested in the net effect on my world? I am not sure there will be any at all. I guess on the far end of the spectrium of improbable but possible outcomes could be: 1. MW never makes another game. 2. FRED starts allowing retailers to price their games as they wish.


Now that #2 is true.... Who is going to say I called it? I really thought that #2 would never happen. I doubt this has anything to do with it but it is funny. Thanks Bob for reminding me of my post.
 
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Oh buggar, I've just thumbed myself.


Did it hurt?
 
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promuso wrote:
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Oh buggar, I've just thumbed myself.


Did it hurt?


Only at first. Eventually you'll start to like it.
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