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Miguel Enrique Escribano
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I am thinking in buying A Game about the complete eastern front campaign, the games I am thinking about are ;

1) Russia Besieged
2) War without mercy
3) Russian Campaign of L2,

Which do you think are the pros and cons of them, which are the differences between of them?

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Get Russian Front. Its better than the 3 you listed.
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which is the level of this four mentioned?, why do you say this Russian Front is better?, how much it takes in length, difficulty, time to be played?.

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Russian Campaign: the easiest of the games you mentioned. Simple to get in, fun to play. In its 4th edition eye-candy (but sadly OOP at L2 so you have to look for another vendor). You might consider gettin' the Caucasus - expansion too since the game has the markers for this included.

Russia Besieged: Beautiful game. Think of it as: I very liked Russian Campaign but would have some more / deeper chrome / rules. In print.

War without Mercy: IMHO a step up from the two other games. While land-movement is fairly simple the air / naval system might give you something to think. Still recommended by me (as the above) but from your list the most complicated. Would definitely consider this if you ever plan to look on the Western / Med - Front because it has expansions that can be added to this game.

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In prices what are the differences?. Then you mean that the Russian Campaign is nearly impossible to get?, may be is out of stock?.

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Homero930 wrote:
In prices what are the differences?. Then you mean that the Russian Campaign is nearly impossible to get?, may be is out of stock?.

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No, not impossible to get. There are other vendors who still have the game. But be aware that you will nearly shill out 110 $ for Russian Campaign including the Expansion.

It is cheaper to go thru ebay looking for Russian Campaign 3rd ed. by Avalon Hill.

Btw. not Out-of-stock (OOS). L2 made clear (AFAIK) that they have none left and will not reprint it.

Russia Besieged: 75 $ - if you are willing to work a bit to get into the rules and are not a total stranger to wargames I would suggest this one over the above.

RC is just an old classic - RB is a bit advanced but not to complicated.

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Have you considered Columbia's block game EastFront II? It covers the whole war and all aspects of it including some elegant supply rules.

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Miguel Enrique Escribano
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I like this front a lot and, in fact, I already have. IF not this one, which will be your suggestions?.

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Miguel Enrique Escribano
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what do you think of a red star is rising of MMP?, pros and cons compared with the previous mentioned.

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Miguel Enrique Escribano
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How much it takes playing all the campaign in every and each of the games mentioned. May you recomend me a game of the eastern front lasting less than six hours?,

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Defiant Russia is short and pretty competitive. If you have never gamed the subject it could serve as a great intro. Plays in an hour or so.

War Without Mercy is just a lot of fun. Terrific game.

EastFront II looks good as well.

I have not played Russian Front, Russian Campaign or Russia Besieged. They all look like fun, but have not made it to the table.
 
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Have you considered No Retreat! Terrific little game for $20. Play the entire front in under 3 hours with 8 pages of rules.
 
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