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Danny de Kooter
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I was wondering, in the manual it says: Youre not allowed to show your cards to the other player but your allowed to discuss them. So basically you can tell somebody wich cards you have? Why not show them? I was really confused about this. Excuse my bad english, I'm dutch.
 
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It is to keep the game more social, that's all. Yes, gameplay wise you may as well show them, but Knizia believed (and many players agree) that if you have to discuss your cards, it makes the game into more of a team effort and reduces the chances that the most experienced player will just look at all the cards and tell people what to do.
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Also it puts a little responsibility on each player's shoulders. I don't care how many times I've played this game, I still often forget that someone has that card that allows a player to pass a card to someone else or the one that lets someone ignore a die roll. It's up to the player that is holding that card to remind the group they have that ability, especially when it becomes important to the survival of the fellowship.

But more than anything it's what wmshub said: If everything is open then one player can just take charge and boss others around. If some information is hidden the players are forced into communicating and working out their problems together.
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Alfred D.
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Playing this game with the missus, we always keep our cards open since we are both equally matched and experienced.
When played with other people we prefer the 'social setting' of hidden cards.
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I'll say the same thing I said about the same issue in Pandemic. From a theoritical standpoint, there is no difference between open communication and showing each other your hands, at least in a co-op game with no incentive to lie or withhold information. Everyone has the same access to information and it should have no effect on what would be considered an optimal play.

However, it does change you arrive at the decision of what to do. Rather than looking around and deciding, you have to ask people. If they are not that good at the game, you may simply ask what they have so that you can do the thinking, but when playing with people equally skilled, it's often enough to ask them what they think. You don't need to know every card in detail. And yes, it's easy to forget that someone may be holding a yellow card for a certain situation. Not showing cards just makes interaction between the players more interesting.
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Danny de Kooter
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Alright, thanks for the quick response. It does make alot more sense now I think about it. I dont like it when 1 player bosses the rest around, and this seems to stop that from happening too much.
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I agree with all the reasons previously given.

A new set of reasons is added if you add the Sauron expansion. There is now an intelligent enemy (Sauron) watching and listening to your every move. In this case, you certainly don't want to leave your cards down for all to see. What's more, what you say now has the contradictory drives to be clear and helpful to your teammates, but the reverse to your enemy! Lots of motivation to refine your communication skills quickly.
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