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Subject: This game shouldn't be here. rss

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Many RPGs have combat systems that you can use for miniatures battles. I don't think Boot Hill is an exception, and it doesn't belong here any more than those other games do. It was a mistake to open the door by including D&D 4th ed. in the database, and this is a perfect example why.
 
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Good point(s), but I'm guessing with the advent of RPGGeek, they'll just change the genre and all will be good.
 
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But unlike a lot of the TSR games of the time, Boot Hill is pretty much a boardgame with a tiny amount of extra information that barely justifies the 'Role-playing game' label they used to try to increase sales back when RPGs were fresh and new.

It's very similar to Dawn Patrol in that aspect - another boardgame from the same era with some very minor character advancement rules.

In truth, it's much less of a RPG than Heroquest is.

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I do not agree. I have never roleplayed Boot Hill but my students and I enjoy setting up the Ok Corral Scenario. Our next attempt will be the Dalton Bank Robbery...no roleplaying; just a straight out wargame scenario.
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Whereas when we played it back in the day, while it was very combat oriented, it was also most certainly played as a RPG, not a board game. I'm surprised to find it here.

Also gotta love a thread with an average of two years between replies!
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While TSR would eventually claim Boot Hill to be a RPG, the first two editions were essentially tabletop combat systems (on a Man-to-Man scale! - heh).

If you played the first two editions as a pure RPG, I tip my hat to you. I always felt the 'campaign rules' were tacked on and lacking.

To my friends and I, Boot Hill was perfect for recreating big scenes from the Magnificent Seven, Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid, etc.
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Mont Van wrote:

While TSR would eventually claim Boot Hill to be a RPG, the first two editions were essentially tabletop combat systems (on a Man-to-Man scale! - heh).

If you played the first two editions as a pure RPG, I tip my hat to you. I always felt the 'campaign rules' were tacked on and lacking.

To my friends and I, Boot Hill was perfect for recreating big scenes from the Magnificent Seven, Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid, etc.


Yes, but this can also be said about the first edition of D&D (Chainmail).
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Chainmail was not the first edition of D&D. It was a miniatures only wargame that could be used to fight large scale 10:1 medieval battles, man to man scale sieges and smaller combats, jousting, and fantasy Tolkein style battles. Came out years before D&D and was based upon older rules than had been around for years before being published as Chainmail.

It had no RPG elements at all.

The first edition of D&D, White or Brown Box, could be used in conjunction with Chainmail, but it was not required by any means.


Boot Hill was also first published as a strictly miniatures based combat game. The edition shown here is the second edition from 1979 that has a few role play elements that are added mostly for character advancement in an ongoing campaign series.

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Well, the suggestion from the mods was to add Boot Hill as an RPG item as well. I see it's already in as an RPG.

I don't actually have much of an issue with it being listed in both places, as it's clearly been used both just as miniatures rules (with no role playing going on), and as a RPG.

I guess, much ado about nothing!
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I have no issue with it being here as since it can be played as a gunfight game, it straddles both board gaming and RPG camps.
What I don't understand is why Gangbusters, one of my favourites and very similar, is on!y on the RPG site!!
 
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