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Ok, so here's the deal. I really want to take the next step up from Memoir '44 but can't find the right game to bring home. When my wife said she wanted to learn BattleLore, I jumped at the chance. Turns out, she loves it! Still no Memoir '44 though, no C&C:Ancients either. After about a year of probing, she finally explained that she just isn't interested in historic wargames, or any game that simulates a battle/war that has already been decided (not even going to try for Twilight Struggle). So, here's my question:

What are the best wargames about wars/battles that have not been fought?

SciFi and Fantasy are also acceptable. Collectible is not acceptable.

[edit] I'm looking for 2 player.
 
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A Game of Thrones (first edition), though it's best played with 3 or more people.
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My wife particularly enjoyed War of the Ring (First Edition).

Other options that spring to mind are Neuroshima Hex! and Tannhäuser.
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Tannhäuser is great, perfect for 2. It is expandable if she does like it.


 
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Normally, I would say Combat Commander: Europe. But it's kinda daunting if she's new to concepts like opportunity fire and the like. Easier is Manoeuvre. As for the historical angle, I don't think it's terribly relevant, as that's only relevant to those who care...
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How about Conflict of Heroes: Awakening the Bear! – Russia 1941-42? Its strong points include: easy to learn, fast games (30 min to 2 hours in length), very nice components, and expandable.
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Muzza wrote:
My wife particularly enjoyed War of the Ring (First Edition).

Other options that spring to mind are Neuroshima Hex! and Tannhäuser.

I owned and traded Neuroshima Hex. For me it felt very abstract, not like a wargame at all.
 
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The game you want is War of the Ring (First Edition), my fiancee loves it, and had listed almost the exact same criteria you described (not historical, does this count as decided?). A plus (for some this is a minus, I think it is thematic) is that it is very unbalanced/asymmetrical, so you can let her use Sauron for a game or two while she gets to know the game (Good luck, you're gonna need it!). Also, for something even lighter, have you considered Small World? My fiancee likes that one quite a bit too, despite her general dislike for direct confrontation games.
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War of the Ring (First Edition)
Hammer of the Scots
 
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Plenty of sci-fi/fantasy options available:

A Game of Thrones (first edition)
Warrior Knights
War of the Ring (First Edition)
StarCraft: The Board Game
Nexus Ops
Dust

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I highly recommend you take a look at War for Edaðh
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The star wars miniatures is a nice 2 player wargame.

My girlfriend is actually very good at it. don't tell her I said that. whistle
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I found War of the Ring fiddly, but I tried only once.
 
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derk wrote:
Normally, I would say Combat Commander: Europe.


I had already decided to get CC:E, whether she will play it or not.
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I've been on this site for 15 years now, and I'm far from sick of games, but I think I prefer a better balance of favorites to new games. I'm also tired of playing 4+ hr multiplayer games, but I'll still happily play really long games 2 player.
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Nexus Ops

Read reviews and user comments. I think this is exactly what you're looking for.
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http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/394814

Towards the end, there's some good recommendations on this thread.
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It's collectable, but, Heroscape.
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Just as some added info.

Nexus Ops: She doesn't like it because she can slowly take over most of the play area but I will win by sacrificing territory for VPs. (I throw a couple troops at hers and win, then she takes over both spaces. Now she's conquering and I'm racking up VPS.

Battleground: Fantasy Warfare: She says that she always rolls high. She swears that she cannot roll low. She feels that she has an unjust handicap in this game.

Risk: She says too long and horrible for 2 players. She's right.

She's never made it through a Star Wars movie without falling asleep.

Shogun: She loved it but it requires 3 players

You all can just say it, there's no game she will like.
 
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Simple, take a game from the World at War Series, very nice game with good flow and simple rules but with great depth, playing during WW3 beginning in 1985 (always remember Eisenbach!!!)

World at War: Eisenbach Gap
 
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Let me just say that I also have little interest in historicals, for similar reasons: we know how the battle came out, so why revisit? I extend that to fiction, for better or worse: I like War of the Ring, because the scale is large enough that my influence can be significant, but Battle of Five Armies is mostly interesting for the alternate scenarios IMHO. I just hear so few people express similar tastes, so I'm a little surprised to find a pocket of people here.

Anyway...

Neuroshima Hex isn't bad, but it is a little more abstract than most wargames. I like it, but YMMV.

Heroscape and Mutant Chronicles Collectible Miniatures Game are also worth a look. I don't call them collectible, since they aren't blind buy, but as pre-painted minis games they are still pretty expensive.

You might look at Frontiers. It's like Battleground: a 3-D tabletop game in a 2-D body. I don't recall if you want to roll low or high, offhand.
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