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Subject: 5. Jesus of Nazareth released/crucified (32 AD) rss

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Stephen Tavener
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In the fantasy timeline, Jesus is released, doesn't become a martyr, and as a result Christianity dies out within a few years of his death. The other timeline is basically our own. Sensitive subject, so I'd suggest showing a pleasant hill with a man talking to 12 others, all seated in the fantasy timeline, and three crosses on the same hill in the second timeline.

... or being insensitive, could name the cards:

Prophet / Loss

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Wash / Go
 
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Incidentally, if folks find this kind of thing offensive, please voice your opinion here. I intend no offense to any religious beliefs, and am open to better suggestions on pivotal events that make for good artwork.
 
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I'm not sure how this relates to the steampunk/magic conflict. How does one side profit from either result?

If you're worried about the controversy you could change the event to the First Council of Nicaea with the results being "Creed of Nicaea Created" and "Christianity Splintered", though I'm still not sure how to relate those to the two fighting futures.
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If anything, I would suggest that it should be the steampunk timeline that includes the release of Jesus and the subsequent failure of Christianity, since all religion is essentially fantasy. ucks:

That aside, the rise or fall of this one religion seems relatively minor when you consider that the vast majority of religious people in the world are not Christian.
 
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Peristarkawan wrote:
That aside, the rise or fall of this one religion seems relatively minor when you consider that the vast majority of religious people in the world are not Christian.

Well, Christianity arguably led to the crusades, the inquisition, and maybe even the printing press. This is, however, the event that is least likely to make the cut if someone comes up with a better suggestion.
 
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AndersGabrielsson wrote:
I'm not sure how this relates to the steampunk/magic conflict. How does one side profit from either result?

There doesn't need to be a profit - just points of divergence; things that happened one way in the steampunk version of history, the other in the fantasy world.

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If you're worried about the controversy you could change the event to the First Council of Nicaea with the results being "Creed of Nicaea Created" and "Christianity Splintered", though I'm still not sure how to relate those to the two fighting futures.

That would be cute; we used to enjoy playing Credo!: the Game of Dueling Dogmas, but I'm not sure how to represent that visually on the cards. Suggestions?
 
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mrraow wrote:
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If you're worried about the controversy you could change the event to the First Council of Nicaea with the results being "Creed of Nicaea Created" and "Christianity Splintered", though I'm still not sure how to relate those to the two fighting futures.

That would be cute; we used to enjoy playing Credo!: the Game of Dueling Dogmas, but I'm not sure how to represent that visually on the cards. Suggestions?

Two religious-looking people arguing, or a scroll with the begining of the Christian creed could work.
 
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I'm looking for a pair of contrasting pictures, showing the event in the two different timelines. The idea is, there will be a combined picture at the start:

.. which will be changed to the final event when it becomes locked, e.g.

... or ...

 
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Hm, okay, so how about this:

One picture is the pope, one is a bunch of different pope-like figures.

Or, one is a cross, and one is a splintered cross (or a bunch of small crosses in different designs - probably better).
 
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