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Subject: Submarine detection rss

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Einar Mageroy
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I also realised that submarines are more difficult to detect. While checking the detection tables for 7th Fleet and 2nd Fleet I realised that what kind of sub is most difficult to detect is changing.

Some detection numbers in different games
2nd Fleet: NATO SS sub 2 or less, NATO SN sub 4 or less
7th Fleet: Allied SS sub 4 or less, Allied SN sub 2 or less
3rd Fleet: US SS sub AND SN sub 1 or less

First the type of sub most difficult to detect changes, when the difference is removed but becomes more difficult to detect.

Does anyone know what is supposed to be realistic? Does it make sense that an SS sub and SN sub is equally difficult to detect? And if not, which one would be most difficult. Seems like that was difficult to decide in 2nd and 7th Fleet
 
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Darrell Pavitt
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Generally, diesel boats are quieter (running on batteries while submerged), but the latest (when the games were made) NATO nuclear subs (Seawolf, Trafalgar etc.) are probably just as quiet.

Edit:

The General #27-2 has a combined sub detection table, which will clear up any questions you might have (older subs = 2 or less, quiet subs and all newer US subs = 1 or less, Trafalgar and Seawolf 0 only; noisy subs on 3 or less (Chinese and really old Soviet on 5 or less)

(I woud recommend that copy of the General,as it also has the Interactive sequence rule that quite a few people use).
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Jim Eliason
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Diesel subs are quieter while submerged than old SNs, but need to snorkel occasionally, which SNs don't need to do. I guess the designers changed their minds on which was more important to avoid detection: noise level or need to expose a part above the surface.
 
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