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Martin Wright
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Hi,

I am a total novice painter and I recently sprayed my GS's with a white undercoat. The problem is that some of them (75%) look and feel very grainy. As if the figure had been dipped into a fine sand! I also sprayed the SM the same day and they are all fine. Anyone have any idea what causes this? And more importantly, is there a way of stripping the paint and not damaging the plastic so I can start over?

Thanks in advance

MW
 
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Sounds like you sprayed the primer from a too large distance and/or didn´t shake the spray bottle well enough.
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shiner22 wrote:
Hi,

I am a total novice painter and I recently sprayed my GS's with a white undercoat. The problem is that some of them (75%) look and feel very grainy. As if the figure had been dipped into a fine sand! I also sprayed the SM the same day and they are all fine. Anyone have any idea what causes this? And more importantly, is there a way of stripping the paint and not damaging the plastic so I can start over?

Thanks in advance

MW


that happened to me too, I tried 3 times before I was sure I wasn't doing something wrong; I ended bringing the spraycan back to the store and got a new one; to strip paint from plastic use pure "Simple Green". let your minis soak in it for one night, and then you can remove the paint layer with a soft toothbrush.
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It can also happen if it's really warm outside... the paint will start to set up before it hits the miniature. Especially if you're spraying from too far away.
 
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You can also use oven cleaner to strip minis. Put it in a plastic bag, spray it heavily, and roll it up. Leave it over night, then clean it with a toothbrush.
 
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Absolutely guaranteed to be either not shaking between sprays or spraying from too far away. Once you hit a certain distance you no longer have a mix of paint and propellant so you get the dust.

You can strip them, definitely an option. Another decent compromise is to take a somewhat stiff brush and clean them off.

Stripping's downside is you absolutely lose sharpness because it relies on breaking the molecular bonds that hold the paint on. You also cause some damage with whatever instruments you use to pull the gooey paint off.

The brush method won't ever get all the dust so the model still looks grainy, but less so.
 
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Sorry to hear about your problem, anyway, I once sprayed some models and held the spray can too close, and the models got all grainy. Just a heads up so you don't make my mistake too.
 
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would it be safer if you paint them with the undercoat other then spraying?
 
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Personally, I'd drive on with what you have. Don't spend a lot of time stripping the paint. You're going to be painting over the primer and I genuinely doubt folks will notice unless you tell them. Particularly on the Gene Stealers. Just remember the advice given here for the next batch of minis you prime.
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To achieve a good result with spray primer it is absolutely essential to shake the can much longer than you think you should, paint in a relatively warm environment, and to make sure the distance between can and figure is correct.

...it's also a good idea to go with a number of light coats of paint rather than one heavy coat to preserve detail.
 
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Simple Green works really well.

Especially if its just a recent light coat you're trying to remove.
 
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Speaking as a fellow Brit we've no idea what Simple Green is. Personally I've heard soaking in Dettol removes the paint with minimal damage to the plastic.
 
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I had that same problem,thought I ruined my minis, and just used one of my old brushes and brushed each one down, and they came out fine, It knocked all the grainniness off while still keeping them base coated. Also my 3 year old son (in training) got to help me "paint" each one.

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jgerman wrote:
zogthedoomed wrote:
Speaking as a fellow Brit we've no idea what Simple Green is. Personally I've heard soaking in Dettol removes the paint with minimal damage to the plastic.


IIRC it's Clean Green in the UK. Also I think... Blue Gold?

Dettol is essentially the same thing.


Detol works great, leave it for an overnight soak, remove the gunk with a toothbrush, wash and start again..There are spraying tips on my construction blog.
 
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shiner22 wrote:
Hi,

I am a total novice painter and I recently sprayed my GS's with a white undercoat. The problem is that some of them (75%) look and feel very grainy. As if the figure had been dipped into a fine sand! I also sprayed the SM the same day and they are all fine. Anyone have any idea what causes this? And more importantly, is there a way of stripping the paint and not damaging the plastic so I can start over?

Thanks in advance

MW


I also have had issues with this with my 1st edition genestealers (that I bought 2 months ago angry ). I think it's partly the humidity and partly spraying from too far away.

I used simple green and they cleaned up great. Waiting for dry days and keeping about 8" away has seemed to fix the problem.


edit: stupid smilies in parentheses.
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Don't forget to wash your plastic figs/sprues in a mild detergent before priming them. Just a bit of soapy water will do. This is to wash off any mold-release residue from the sprues and figs. That way, your paint/primer will adhere evenly.
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From what I understand anything with pine oil in it works as I believe it's the pine oil in dettol that strips it (the sap from scots pine trees can be made into turps). But aye, dettol or any such similar disinfectant. At least in the UK you can buy bottles of similar stuff from Poundland. Don't know how less quality it is though.
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How smooth or rough should a good, light coat of primer be?
 
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FCSchmidt wrote:
It can also happen if it's really warm outside... the paint will start to set up before it hits the miniature. Especially if you're spraying from too far away.


And humidity is not your friend when using spray's.
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yossarians wrote:
shiner22 wrote:
Hi,

I am a total novice painter and I recently sprayed my GS's with a white undercoat. The problem is that some of them (75%) look and feel very grainy. As if the figure had been dipped into a fine sand! I also sprayed the SM the same day and they are all fine. Anyone have any idea what causes this? And more importantly, is there a way of stripping the paint and not damaging the plastic so I can start over?

Thanks in advance

MW


I also have had issues with this with my 1st edition genestealers (that I bought 2 months ago :angry: ). I think it's partly the humidity and partly spraying from too far away.

I used simple green and they cleaned up great. Waiting for dry days and keeping about 8" away has seemed to fix the problem.


edit: stupid smilies in parentheses.


Simple green is a godsend for striping mini's, and can be purchased at Home Depot for under 3$
 
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