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Tomas Lundin
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I'm looking to pick up Combat Commander. But before I do, are there any important differences between the two "editions" (important enough to look for one or the other when buying)? Advice needed! surprise

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Cindy Nowak
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It was explained quite well in this thread.

But this summarizes it best -

RPardoe wrote:
The original pre-order of Combat Commander did include 2 bonus scenarios (#101 and #102) that were not included with the second printing. These bonus scenarios are now available for download from GMT's site.

As for the game itself, the only differences were:

v1.1 rulebook
fixed German card #48 (called its order an action)
fixed pillbox count on American cheat card (information only, no impact on game play)
pinlines added to the hills on maps 11 & 12 for clarity


There were some cosmetic changes between the two printings. The maps are back-printed (meaning there is a map on the front and back of each mapsheet. The paired up maps are a little different:

First printing: 1/4 2/3 5/8 6/7 ....
Second printing 1/2 3/4 5/6 7/8 ....

Another cosmetic change...the counters on the first printing countersheet are only connected at the corners. The counters on the second edition of the second printing are also connected in the middle of each side. This results in a small tab that might be difficult to remove if you trim your counters.

But despite that long explanation - the changes in the second printing are minor indeed. I have the first printing and no one has ever noticed the small items that were changed (fixed) in the second printing. Both printings are eminently playable. And you will get the same stuff in both copies.
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Yes. The first edition is out of print so you'd better hurry and order the second one while it still is available! laughlaughlaugh
 
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Memory says that the second edition also included a free counter-tray. True or faulty memory?

In any case, buy either one and start having BIG fun.

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If you are the sort that clips counters the way that the second edition counters are attached is kind of a big deal
 
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Thank you all for answers. I'll get the game, seems great. I'm trying to get my brother into wargames and this might work. angry
 
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Yes, counter attachment is a big deal if you care for the look of the thing. I can't understand why counters are ever done with those extra lugs. They end up looking very inferior whatever careful clipping you do (and it's a lot). The counter sheets should be re-printed at some point to match those in the first printing (and CC:M and CC).
 
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pedrosantos wrote:
I can't understand why counters are ever done with those extra lugs.

It was a first-time-printer's mistake when they did not fully understand the manufacturer's specifications. GMT has informed me that the printer has been squared away and this sort of thing should not occur again with their games.
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Yes, I was very disappointed to see the 'side sprue' tabs on the counters. I drives me crazy every time I play. Especially after playing CC with its nice clean corner clipped counters shake I know it isn't a deal breaker, but I wish I would have kept my 1st edition way back when.
 
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yes, second printing has an extra countertray inside.
perhaps as an excuse for aformentrioned countermiscuts.
darn! they look really awful! arrrh
 
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Yeah. Just play the game. Before you know it, the nubs will be worn off by USE.
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