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Subject: J.S. Bach - Theater building vs. upgrading rss

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J.S.Bach gives one resource discount when building a theater. Can this discount be used when upgrading a theater?


 
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oceano wrote:

J.S.Bach gives one resource discount when building a theater. Can this discount be used when upgrading a theater?


No, I don't think so but I will have to check the rules to be sure.
 
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oceano wrote:

J.S.Bach gives one resource discount when building a theater. Can this discount be used when upgrading a theater?




I believe this follows the same idea as Masonry where it reduces the cost of the building, and the upgrades are the difference between the costs. So if the costs for all buildings are reduced (as they are with Bach) then there is no reduction in upgrade cost.

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My thoughts are the same as Geoffrey's. You can't use Masonry to upgrade a Level 1 building to a Level 2 building for one less rock, because it is assumed that you got that cost reduction when you built the Level 1 building in the first place. Now in actuality you may have bought that building for full price before playing Masonry, but as someone else put it once in this forum, the buildings have no memory. You may remember this, but the game does not.

I think it must be the same for Bach, and you can see why it would be this way. Otherwise, when it came time to upgrade that Opera house to a Movie theater, you would have to try to remember whether you already used Bach on that particular building, to upgrade it from a Drama theater. It's obvious you wouldn't be allowed to get the Bach reduction twice on the same building, and good game design doesn't leave these things up to players' memories.

 
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You don't have, ever, a specific cost to upgrade any building, every tech card just states the cost to BUILD that particular building/unit.

So, since Bach states that "theaters cost 1 less resource to build", it means that the cost to build them is: cost printed - 1.

This applies to all theaters, so there's no change in the cost to upgrade them, it's higher lvl cost - 1 - (lower lvl cost - 1) = higher lvl cost - lower lvl cost.
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Thanks to all for the answers
 
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