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Personally, I hate "brute strength" superheros. Sure, you can get some character development there, but IMO not consistently. This means I really don't care for characters such as Superman and the Hulk. Also, super sappy characters annoy me. This means people like Spiderman are out, too.

The characters I enjoy reading are those such as Batman and Nightcrawler. Compelling backstory, room for character development, etc. So why aren't there any female characters worth reading? I suppose some might be okay, but they don't get the good authors.

Suggestions?

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Not a superhero comic, but a fantasy novel trilogy: take a look at "Mistborn" by Brandon Sanderson.
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I thought female super-heroes were meant to be looked at, not read...
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Amy needs a hero! How about the cutie that plays the drums and sings the backing vocals in this song?



All those flame throwers make her a hottie, eh? whistle
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Amy needs a hero! How about the cutie that plays the drums and sings the backing vocals in this song?



All those flame throwers make her a hottie, eh? whistle


Have you ever seen Skillet in concert? They are AWESOME! Much harder rock than any of their recordings.

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Promethea - Alan Moore goodness

Non superhero comic genre, Strangers in Paradise (series was awesome then got a bit dull toward the end but the early books are grade A, if you never read it. Terry Moore has a new series called "Echo" which I have but haven't read blush

Kabuki by David Mack is pretty interesting - beautiful art.

Powers by BMB has strong female roles.
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You get a thumb and huge street cred from me for liking Nightcrawler! He is awesome, it was too bad they didn't do more with him in the movies.
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What are you talking bout?....Strong, Amazon, Invisible Jet and cool bracelets.



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Spielfreak wrote:
I thought female super-heroes were meant to be looked at, not read...


Yeah. Just like the fact that girls don't play video games, AmeriTrash board games, or collectible card games, girls don't read comics. At least that's what the publishes, authors, artists, and game designers think.

I meant to address that in the OP. No one thought females read comics. Then when Sandman came out, it appears readership was about 50/50. And that was what, 20 years ago? And apparently they still haven't figured it out.

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Have you ever seen Skillet in concert? They are AWESOME! Much harder rock than any of their recordings.

Several times and, yes, the live show is awesome. I got to meet with John and Korey Cooper at Rock the Universe a couple years ago and they were very personable and generous with their time. They seemed a bit surprised to find a fan older than them, though.
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The Cassandra Cain version of Batgirl was fantastic, but she's gone now. I really enjoyed Peter David's run on Supergirl too, again long since canned and forgotten. Harley Quinn's series started out strong and original, but it got really weird really fast and, of course, got canned. Birds of Prey varied from average to pretty good, again cancelled.

The trend seems to be these titles don't usually live too long. Even Wonder Woman struggles in sales at times. It's sad really, there are some great female characters out there that could easily carry a book on their own. Trades are your friend. I can also suggest Spider-Girl, but she's one a lot of people don't seem to like much.
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What are you talking bout?....Strong, Amazon, Invisible Jet and cool bracelets.

[IMG]Wonder Woman jpg[/IMG]



See above: "brute strength".

And thanks for all the recommendations so far. I've not read any of them! surprise So that's got to change. Jeff's got Promethea, but I've not read it yet. But I can't help but notice that several times, the words "not super-hero" appears.

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More non-comic fantasy suggestions.

I've just finished reading the 2nd book in the Earthsea Cycle by Ursula LeGuin - The Tombs of Atuan The protagonist is female and the whole story is really about her, her life, struggles, etc. and how she makes choices about her life. This could be read as a stand-alone book and is VERY good. It also is a Newberry Honor book (no surprise!)

Lavinia - I also cannot say enough about this latest book by LeGuin which also features a female protagonist. Fascinating, engaging, absorbing, and just beautifully written.

Good luck!!
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Isn't it impossible to read a female?
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amwiles wrote:


See above: "brute strength".

And thanks for all the recommendations so far. I've not read any of them! surprise So that's got to change. Jeff's got Promethea, but I've not read it yet. But I can't help but notice that several times, the words "not super-hero" appears.



There really aren't any dark, deep, and brooding women superheroes. Sounds like an ideal work for our resident writer Toggy.
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Lets do a mix...

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Spielfreak wrote:
I thought female super-heroes were meant to be looked at, not read...


And agent provocateur agrees with you whistle

I liked the girls on Runaways before Buffy-man took the ship.
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goo The obvious choice would seem to be the short-lived Sensational She-Hulk. And Gaiman's Death is one of the greatest female characters of recent years. A fave from the Golden Age is Black Canary. And for dark and broody, try Marvel's Black Widow (though she most often appeared in Daredevil)...not sure if she ever had her own title. goo
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goo The obvious choice would seem to be the short-lived Sensational She-Hulk. And Gaiman's Death is one of the greatest female characters of recent years. A fave from the Golden Age is Black Canary. And for dark and broody, try Marvel's Black Widow (though she most often appeared in Daredevil)...not sure if she ever had her own title. goo


You're saying that She-Hulk isn't a brute-strength character? I mean, I honestly don't know, since I assumed she was just like the Hulk. And Death -- not super-hero! She's Death!

Perhaps I should read a little more Black Canary, though, and I'm not familiar with Black Widow.

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Alias, by Brian Bendis.

The hero has the brute strength, but she goes far out of her way to avoid using it. This has some similar themes to Powers which was mentioned earlier...ex-heroes doing their best to build a productive but mundane life.
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Some of the graphic novel serieses have lots of heroes worth reading about, female and male. I might suggest Watchmen (although most of the characters are male), and the more recent Powers, and the graphic novelization of Heroes. They're all much more about plot and character development, and much less about breasts and explosions.
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MWChapel wrote:
What are you talking bout?....Strong, Amazon, Invisible Jet and cool bracelets.

[IMG]Wonder Woman jpg[/IMG]



See above: "brute strength".

And thanks for all the recommendations so far. I've not read any of them! surprise So that's got to change. Jeff's got Promethea, but I've not read it yet. But I can't help but notice that several times, the words "not super-hero" appears.



Amy, I really have to disagree with you about Wonderwoman. She's not about brute strength even though she does have strength rivaling if not surpassing Hercules. Read her backstory and the development of her character from it's inception to modern day... she was designed to be the super heroine balance to the mystery men heroes of the past. Her original outfit was so... housemum all she was missing were the pearls.

Mary Jane and Aunt May from Spiderman are great female reps... no superpowers (unless you like the what if when aunt may became a herald for galactus)
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I didn't really care for Watchman. I mean, it was okay, just not outstanding (realize I read it this year, not back when it was originally published).

Mike, do you have some trade paperback recommendations for Wonderwoman?

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When I collected and read floppies regularly, I largely concentrated on female heroes. After reading about dudes beating each other up all my life, I found that the stories that were being told of the distaff sex were more interesting... I was a Supergirl completist, and collected hundreds of her appearances. Then one day, I bought Action Comics #252--her first appearance--and it knocked the wind out of me. It just wasn't as fun finding the rest, after getting my grail comic. There's a lesson in there, somewhere...

Anyway, while Supergirl and She-Hulk are brute strength, their comics was a lot of fun. Don't discount Wonder Woman, either! The Perez reboot after the first Crisis is required reading! Promethea was OK, but gets way too bogged down in Moore's sex magick BS.

Some that haven't been mentioned:

Ghost; I only read the first few years, and there's a lot of cheesecake, but it was interesting and cool.

Legion of Super Heroes has chicks, and they rock. Again, I was readin' the late-nineties stuff, and it was dope.

Another ensemble book with strong gals that I'll always take a chance to big up is the Defenders. THE DEFENDERS, PEOPLE!

Going back further, you might want to check out Cloak & Dagger's early stuff, and Dazzler, too. Yeah, Dazzler's got a rep for corn, since she's a disco heroine, but there's some cool stuff in there.

Lastly, I'll highly recommend two of my favorite Silver Age comics: Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane, and Superman Family. These comics are CRAZY! Yeah, so LL's not a superhero as a rule, but she ends up with powers a lot in these books! Imaginary stories, power mix-ups, super-babies... Comics get no funner.

Huh, "funner" isn't tagged as a misspelling by Firefox. Weird. Takes some of the fun out of using the word...
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I meant to address that in the OP. No one thought females read comics. Then when Sandman came out, it appears readership was about 50/50. And that was what, 20 years ago? And apparently they still haven't figured it out.


Yeah but Sandman sucked.
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