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Subject: Campaign Trail - All canidates elected - Game over - good wins rss

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This is a basic 9 player game with an election twist.

Day 1 will be an election, whomever gets the most votes (highest on the Cassie list) will be elected Governor, the second place player will be elected mayor. Third will be police chief (Bodyguard), 4th will be deputy (Tough), and 5th (last) will be the weird candidate (Medium). Whomever is at the bottom of the list (or all people without votes) will be granted the brutal attribute.

The roles are:
2 Wolves
Sorcerer
Seer
Hunter
4 Villagers

 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread
General Rules:

> 4PM Dusk, 6PM deadline for night orders (actual dawn may occur later).
> Game will run weekdays only.
> LHLV tie-breaker, Any votes with a timestamp of 4:01 PM or later will not be counted.
> Random negative N0 views.
> Full reveal on death.
> No conversion, no items, no hidden roles, no hidden powers.
> As in any game where there is a new configuration of roles, game balance is not guaranteed, but I have tried my best to make it so. Please suggest changes before the game begins if you see an imbalance.
> No order results in no action. Exceptions may be made for replacements.
> Participation is important, no posts and/or no voting may get you replaced.
> Let me know if you are going to be unavailable for more than a day.
> Conditional orders are ok. Please use mod chat.
> Conditional votes can be made, if you are away, they will be announced before lynch.
> If cassie or BGG is down, particularly near lynch the game day will be delayed/postponed.
> Use red tags (r-curly bracket) to post a question to get a response from the mod.
> Avoid editing posts. Describe the edit if it is necessary.
> No deletion of posts.
> Posting is not restricted except for the lynch leader who should not reveal any information after the lynch deadline.
> Dead players must use zombie tags and not reveal any information in their posts.
> No Lynch and No Kill orders are acceptable.
> In answering your questions, I will conform to your assumptions, answering does not validate your assumptions. e.g. asking "Can the wolf jmilum do x", may get the response: "Yes". Meaning that x is possible for the wolf, who you are assuming is jmilum.
> If anyone makes a post which is based on a misunderstanding of the rules. I will try to correct this, as failure to understand the rules is a failure of mine to explain them properly. The poster should not be penalized for that.
> This is a game, the goal is to have fun. Personal insults should be avoided.
> Please thumb posts that you find amusing or insightful, this should not necessarily be considered endorsement of that player's position.
> I should not have to state no cheating, which includes but is not limited to:
> > Private messages, small/hidden/white fonts, pre-arranged signals/deals, codes etc.
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread
Team Evil
Werewolves: Share a chat, have no knowledge of other player's roles.
Sorcerer: Views each night for seer/not seer. Results given at dawn.

Team Good
Seer: Views each night for werewolf/not werewolf. Results given at dawn.
Hunter: If in a 1-1 or 2-2 tie for parity will win for good.
4 Villagers: Nothing special unless they get elected.

Election Positions
All roles are eligible for the election.

First Place: Governor: Once per game can decide lynch.
Second Place: Mayor: Once per game can declare no lynch or roll lynch to 2nd place player
Third Place: Sheriff/Bodyguard: Each night can protect one player from NK. May not choose a player two nights in a row. Does not die if protection works, may not protect themselves.
Fourth Place: Deputy: Tough
Fifth Place: Fringe Candidate/Medium: The likes of the "Guns and Dope" or "Church of the Militant Elvis Party". Once per game may allow a dead player to re-join the forum until next dusk.
Bottom or never voted: Brutal attribute

Order of operations:
At dusk the Governor will be given first opportunity to decide lynch
Next the Mayor will be given the option to declare lynch.
Conditional orders will be accepted from these positions.
Lynch results revealed
Dawn
Werewolves NK revealed
Seer/Sorcerer Given Results
Medium can activate any dead player.
Note: No actions will be done on N1
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread
Player List According to Cassandra:
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jageroxorz
Kaldar
kuchick
miraria
paulsantac
raid1280
redemption99
sydwys8

9 players are signed up.

To sign up for this game go to
http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/4479...
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread
So, is it a secret vote? And I assume you can't vote for yourself? And what if a wolf is elected?
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread
jageroxorz wrote:
So, is it a secret vote? And I assume you can't vote for yourself? And what if a wolf is elected?


Nope open vote, you can vote for yourself. I would hope for balance purposes that a wolf would get at least one position.
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread
So, to be clear, D1 isn't a lynch, so D2 is the real D1?

And, I'm pretty certain I'm just gonna [vote Jageroxorz]

When the medium brings up a player, do they both get votes?
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread
jageroxorz wrote:
So, to be clear, D1 isn't a lynch, so D2 is the real D1?

And, I'm pretty certain I'm just gonna [vote Jageroxorz]

When the medium brings up a player, do they both get votes?


D2 is the first lynch, D1 is an election.

I don't know how it would play out, if everyone votes for themselves, then evil can control the vote, but that might be detectable... It is just one of the many concepts that I had, and I am on a pseudo-vacation starting next week, so I will have lots of time.

The zombie does not get a vote, but a zombie seer could reveal their views for example.

 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread
I might need to have the sorcerer know the werewolves in order to balance out the election a bit... Comments?
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread
dcorrin wrote:
I don't know how it would play out, if everyone votes for themselves...

Sure you do, you already said so in the rules:
dcorrin wrote:
Day 1 will be an election, whomever gets the most votes (highest on the Cassie list) will be elected Governor, the second place player will be elected mayor. Third will be police chief (Bodyguard), 4th will be deputy (Tough), and 5th (last) will be the weird candidate (Medium). Whomever is at the bottom of the list (or all people without votes) will be granted the brutal attribute.

I would assume that a situation where everyone had 1 vote means everyone is at both the top and the bottom. There is no role for "the group at the top" but there is a role for "the group at the bottom."

Thus, it is clearly within the villages best interests to make sure "somebody" gets more votes on D1. or not, and it could just be a game of "Everyone's Brutal."

Of course, you are the mod, so it's your call. You also need to decide what to do in case of ties, since there need to be ties in order for all the potential roles to be assigned.
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread
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Thus, it is clearly within the villages best interests to make sure "somebody" gets more votes on D1. or not, and it could just be a game of "Everyone's Brutal."

Of course, you are the mod, so it's your call. You also need to decide what to do in case of ties, since there need to be ties in order for all the potential roles to be assigned.


Cassie always provides an order, which is what I was planning on using, so in that case whomever voted first for themselves would be Governor.

What I am envisioning is that people will campaign for the positions, and that the limited knowledge of the village, but the complete knowledge of the wolves will drive them to not doing single votes. Also with 5 positions and 9 votes there is no way to avoid ties at some point. Even 4 positions would require 10 votes to be entirely differentiated.

 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread
Poll: Voting mechanism
There have been some questions about the mechanism of the D1 poll. As this is secondary to the concept of the game. That is the players choose the positions, and then play a simple 9 player game with the added positions. I thought I would put in a poll and we could then vote on how to vote.

My first take was to just let a normal cassie vote order determine the ordering, here are some others that I thought of:
Which type of voting most appeals to you?
  Your Answer   Vote Percent Vote Count
One vote per person, no restriction.
16.7% 1
One vote per person, may not self-vote
16.7% 1
Two votes per person, no restriction.
0.0% 0
Two votes per person, may not self-vote.
16.7% 1
Two votes per person, may not place both votes on the same player.
0.0% 0
Two votes per person, may not self-vote, nor place both on the same player
50.0% 3
Some other configuration
0.0% 0
Voters 6
How should ties be resolved?
  Your Answer   Vote Percent Vote Count
By LHLV
83.3% 5
By LHFV
16.7% 1
Re-vote.
0.0% 0
Some other mechanism.
0.0% 0
Voters 6
This poll is now closed.   6 answers
Poll created by dcorrin
Closes: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:00 am
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread
this game mechanic is extremly appealing to me I hope the game goes over well
 
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This sounds fun, i signed up.
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread (only one more needed)
Get your votes in on page 1 for voting mechanism... The game will be starting soon...
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread (Off to the polls)
The Cassandra Automatic Vote Tally System

Your Moderator has enabled the Cassandra Automatic Vote Tally system
for this game. In order for it to function correctly, your votes will
need to be formatted correctly. The following rules will explain what
you will need to do:

Players
1. All votes must be bolded

2. The entire vote statement must be bolded and enclosed in bracekts: [vote jmilum]

3. Only one vote per post.

4. If you [vote nightfall] your vote will be locked (voting
nightfall is allowed in the same post as a vote for a player, but it
must come after it, this does not violate Rule #3)

5. Vote tallies will be automatically posted to the game thread hourly
if the tally has changed. The Tally and Vote Logs (for each game day)
are also available on the Cassandra game page.

6. If your vote is not counted be sure to check the Vote Log page and
see if it was marked invalid and why.

7. Case does not matter and simple typos will not cause the vote to fail.

8. You may [vote no lynch] if your game allows it.

9. Non voting players will be listed in the tallies. This will only be
correct if the Moderator notes which players have been killed (see below)

10. Editing a vote post will invalidate the vote and it will not be counted.


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1. The moderator will need to post [Dawn] when the day begins
(after the night results are posted) and [Dusk] when the lynch
deadline has passed and the day is over. Votes will not be counted
after [Dusk] has been posted. They will be registered again
after [Dawn] is next posted.

2. You may include a day number in the dawn and dusk post for
informational purposes, but it will not be used by the system.
Cassandra will increment an internal counter each time it sees
[Dawn] no matter what day is shown in a dawn post (i.e.
[Dawn 3] the three is allowed but ignored)

3. After dusk has been posted, the Moderator may go to the game page
on Cassandra to request a Final Tally to be posted before the normal
scan period has elapsed (i.e. Game Y gets scanned at 45 min. after the
hour, if it lynches at 7pm the moderator may request a tally to be
posted from the game page before 7:45pm. it will also be posted
regardless of whether or not it has been changed since the last
posting) - Do this by clicking on the 'Retrieve Final Lynch Time Vote' link.

4. You will need to note which players were killed via the lynch or at night by
either posting [killed jmilum] in the thread, or by going to the game
page and editing the player list. When posting in the thread, be sure to post
[dusk] before posting the lynch kill, and post [dawn] before
posting the night kill.
Example:
A. lynch time has passed so post [dusk]
B. goto the game page and select a final tally to be posted
C. check the final tally and post [killed melsana]
D. after the night deadline has passed post [dawn]
E. post the night kill with [killed kima]

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Vote Log Page: http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/4479...
Vote Tally Page: http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/4479...
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread (Off to the polls)
No-one has checked in yet?

First "lynch" will be Wednesday. Which will be the results of the voting for offices. Today (Tuesday) at 4pm will be the deadline for the poll above to finalize the election strategy.

You can start voting now if you wish, but some votes may be invalidated depending on the poll results. It will be one election, with the player getting the most votes elected Governor, second most votes Mayor, etc.

Both good and evil are eligible for any position, so lets start those campaign promises...


 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread (Off to the polls)
[vote kuchick]
[vote raid]

Bunneh needs YOU to run for office.

Bunneh for Governor!
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread (Off to the polls)
[vote jageroxorz]

if that's not allowed

[vote redemption]

[vote miraria]
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread (Off to the polls)
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Kaldar wrote:
[vote kuchick]
[vote raid]

Bunneh needs YOU to run for office.

Bunneh for Governor!


So does this mean that we get two votes, or just one?

I checked above, but didn't see anything that mentioned it. Cool idea btw Dcor.

Can we sell our votes for geekgold? If so I will sell my vote to the highest bidder, cash in hand of course.


When the primaries close (poll) today at 4pm we will know how many votes each person gets in the electoral college (wed vote). Right now 2 votes is winning: 80% of the respondents favour two votes, with 56% of the polls reporting in.

While selling votes for geekgold is attractive in this game on so many levels, I am going to have to disallow it.

 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread (Off to the polls)
No sellin my vote?

[Vote kuchick]
[vote miraria]
 
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Re: Campaign Trail Game/Signup Thread (Off to the polls)
I say we need to pull together as a village and elect the best man possible..me! but since i don't think i can vote for myself..(2 votes with no self vote seems to be winning)

[Vote Jage]
[Vote Disp]
 
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