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WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said Wednesday he planned to nominate an openly gay lawyer as the U.S. ambassador to New Zealand and Samoa. If confirmed by the Senate, David Huebner would become the third openly gay ambassador in U.S. history and the first pick by this administration. In a statement released from the White House, Obama said he looked forward to working with Huebner and is confident he will represent the United States well in the Pacific region


Phillip Elliot, "Obama picks openly gay lawyer for ambassadorship", AP Wire service, 10.07.09
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_gay_ambassador;

Now, if he had chosen Mr. Hueber to be the ambassador to a state like Saudi Arabia, his sexual preference would have been of some import. (IE- WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING???)

But in this case, I mean, who cares? As Chiddler has pointed out now and again, New Zealand apparently isn't going to be offended by this choice. The guy seems to be qualified.
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Huebner is based in Shanghai, where he handles international arbitration and mediation cases for a U.S. firm. A graduate of Princeton University and Yale Law School


And...to be quite honest... New Zealand really isn't as important as other postings. (Sorry Chiddler).

So why the lead that Mr. Hueber is gay? Given that Mr. Hueber isn't even the first gay Ambassador, merely the first gay Ambassador that Pres. Obama has appointed, is this really news? And to those who say that ALL appointments are equally important, why is it that I haven't seen the same type of article for the ambassador to Australia? A search for news on the posting of Jeff Bleich only shows news sites out of Australia, despite Mr. Bleich being referred to as a "Close Friend" of the President.

Or Austria, for that matter? A search here gives me very few current news articles for the appointment of William Eacho to this position in June.

And if this is 'news'....then why?

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I think we should send all our unused lawyers to New Zealand.

Whether they're gay, straight, bi, tri, quad, trans, shemale or just really ugly women. New Zealand certainly has the room and no doubt it would cause Chiddler to rethink his usual position that America is evil.
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And if this is 'news'....then why?


The same reason anything trivial is reported: Slow news day.

I would MAYBE agree with that...Cept that the appointment of a personal friend of the President to be the Ambassador of Australia (a country which actually IS pretty important to not just our trade interests, but also military and regional interests), is, I think, MORE of an issue and it got LESS coverage in the United States.

Did you read the rest of the article? Its interesting..the writer makes a big deal talking about the President's relationship to the rest of the Gay Rights community and their political agenda, implying that this appointment was a 'sop' to their interests. Personally, I think that the appointment of an ambassador to New Zealand is so far off the beaten path, that that makes no sense- I mean, if I was an activist, I'd kind of a be a bit insulted that the 'big appointment' was the ambassador to New Zealand....

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...Cept that the appointment of a personal friend of the President to be the Ambassador of Australia (a country which actually IS pretty important to not just our trade interests, but also military and regional interests), is, I think, MORE of an issue and it got LESS coverage in the United States...Personally, I think that the appointment of an ambassador to New Zealand is so far off the beaten path, that that makes no sense- I mean, if I was an activist, I'd kind of a be a bit insulted that the 'big appointment' was the ambassador to New Zealand....

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Me thinks that this was a ruse so you could talk trash on New Zealand.
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...Cept that the appointment of a personal friend of the President to be the Ambassador of Australia (a country which actually IS pretty important to not just our trade interests, but also military and regional interests), is, I think, MORE of an issue and it got LESS coverage in the United States...Personally, I think that the appointment of an ambassador to New Zealand is so far off the beaten path, that that makes no sense- I mean, if I was an activist, I'd kind of a be a bit insulted that the 'big appointment' was the ambassador to New Zealand....

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Me thinks that this was a ruse so you could talk trash on New Zealand.


Would I do THAT????

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My first thought was to check the author to see why he considered it news. Turns out he rights for a San Francisco newspaper and when I did a search of his published articles the first four hits had gay in the title.

Solved? Not really...those four hits are just two stories (gay ambassador and Obama's plan to address HRC) with the newspaper version and AP version, and none of the others are about gay stuff.

So I don't know, except that I imagine any "first gay appointment" news will be bigger in San Francisco than in the nation as a whole.
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Yah, I noticed that also- the only other links to this are on blogs that are for the gay rights movement.

Which is why I thought it was interesting that it was being picked up by them at all? I mean- why?

The only thing I can think of is that some of the blogs are so automatic, if the title has 'gay' in it at all, and its vaguely political, some of the bloggers pick it up.

All right- I'll give it a day, but right now, the consensus of the RSP is...."err?"

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...Cept that the appointment of a personal friend of the President to be the Ambassador of Australia (a country which actually IS pretty important to not just our trade interests, but also military and regional interests), is, I think, MORE of an issue and it got LESS coverage in the United States...Personally, I think that the appointment of an ambassador to New Zealand is so far off the beaten path, that that makes no sense- I mean, if I was an activist, I'd kind of a be a bit insulted that the 'big appointment' was the ambassador to New Zealand....

Darilian


Me thinks that this was a ruse so you could talk trash on New Zealand.


Would I do THAT????

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er - whjat makes you think that relates to New Zealand?

Not a lot of Kiwi troops at New Orleans, dimwit.


Yes- but it annoys you. And thats priceless.

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Something tells me Chiddler doesn't smile much.

More gay lawyers for New Zealand ought to do the trick though!
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Darilian wrote:
Yah, I noticed that also- the only other links to this are on blogs that are for the gay rights movement.

Which is why I thought it was interesting that it was being picked up by them at all? I mean- why?

The only thing I can think of is that some of the blogs are so automatic, if the title has 'gay' in it at all, and its vaguely political, some of the bloggers pick it up.


It doesn't surprise me at all that gay rights blogs picked up the story. Part of it is that, yeah, if you're a niche news blog you're likely to mention almost anything in that niche but also gay rights folks are watching Obama very closely right now. They're disappointed by some things that he's done and in particular by some things he hasn't done and many feel that he's made a deliberate choice to throw them under the bus in order not to give social conservatives another easy cudgel with which to hit him. Appointing an openly-gay person to any position is a minor but nice data point for the optimistic column.
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Hopefully someday it won't be news- or, at the very least, media outlets won't feel the need to plaster someone's sexuality all over an article about them, because people will have gotten their collective knickers un-twisted.
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Sorry, I should've chosen my words more carefully. I wasn't trying to imply that people were up in arms about it. Rather, what I meant was that hopefully someday people will get to the point where sexuality is a non-issue (i.e. un-twisting the knickers above) and isn't even ever mentioned, let alone turned into a headline of any kind.
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It's 1814. I thought you were supposed to be a historian or something.


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Why is that a problem?
 
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Dude, how many lawyers do you know? Because I know a lot, and lemme tell you, "best lawyer joke" is an ongoing contest among lawyers here.

(My favorite: two lawyers walk into a restaurant, open their briefcases, and pull out sandwiches, which they begin eating. The restaurant owner comes over and he says "hey, you can't eat food you brought in here." The lawyers shrug, say "okay" - and then hand each other their sandwiches and start eating again.)
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Hopefully someday it won't be news- or, at the very least, media outlets won't feel the need to plaster someone's sexuality all over an article about them, because people will have gotten their collective knickers un-twisted.


The "people" don't seem to have their knickers in a twist. This "news" was greeted with a big yawn, with a lot of folks on both sides of the aisle wondering why this is even newsworthy.

I thought this was a more newsworthy (and actually troubling) ambassadorial appointment:
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That's right . . . Charles Rivkin, our newest Ambassador to France, is reponsible for THIS:




This is toddler TV. It's obnoxious but why troubling?
 
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Hopefully someday it won't be news- or, at the very least, media outlets won't feel the need to plaster someone's sexuality all over an article about them, because people will have gotten their collective knickers un-twisted.


The "people" don't seem to have their knickers in a twist. This "news" was greeted with a big yawn, with a lot of folks on both sides of the aisle wondering why this is even newsworthy.

I thought this was a more newsworthy (and actually troubling) ambassadorial appointment:
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That's right . . . Charles Rivkin, our newest Ambassador to France, is reponsible for THIS:




This is toddler TV. It's obnoxious but why troubling?


You fell victim to one of the world's classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia. But only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

Oh, and slightly less well-known, is if Drew might just be kidding he probably is.
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The problem with lawyer jokes is that lawyers don't find them funny


Dude, how many lawyers do you know? Because I know a lot, and lemme tell you, "best lawyer joke" is an ongoing contest among lawyers here.

(My favorite: two lawyers walk into a restaurant, open their briefcases, and pull out sandwiches, which they begin eating. The restaurant owner comes over and he says "hey, you can't eat food you brought in here." The lawyers shrug, say "okay" - and then hand each other their sandwiches and start eating again.)


My favourites:


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- A doberman.



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Waving and walking toward her one lawyer turns to the other and says "My god. She is marooned like us. And she is gorgeous. Do you think she will let us screw her?" The other looks the woman up and down and turns to the other contemptuously "Out of what?"



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