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Roberto Ullfig
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How does this game play with only 2 players? Is it worth it?
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My one play of this game was with two players. I enjoyed it, and do not imagine it would be much different with more players other than more down-time, more conflict over which cards you get, and more opponents to consider in military struggles. The act of choosing cards and optimizing your civilization is alive and well with two.
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The game is significantly different with more than two players. The fact that it is no longer a zero-sum game is one example of a difference.

The two-player game is fine, especially if you are just learning. There are people here who swear by two-player, but personally, having played it dozens of times, half of which were four-player games, the other 50/50 on two and three player, I am not planning on playing two-player ever again. The difference is that strong!
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I think it works well with 2 players, although you should be aware that Pacts are not used in a 2 player game (I think that's the only difference). You still have many tough and enjoyable choices to make.

The sweet spot for this game seems to be 3 players, as 4 players can tend to cause some down time waiting for your turn.
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The # players poll on the TtA page (as with every game page) should answer the OP's question sufficiently. In summary: best with three, but good with two.

dcorban wrote:
The game is significantly different with more than two players. The fact that it is no longer a zero-sum game is one example of a difference.

I think the biggest difference is that, with more players in the game, it increases the chances of someone getting enough good cards from the military deck (e.g., Tactics + Aggression) that it forces all players to be honest and keep up. With 2p, if you do get these good cards, it just means your opponent is likely drawing the +Defense cards. angry Also, with more players, you can have multiple players chip away at a given player.

I play TtA 2p mostly because I do mostly 2p gaming. We've been playing it at just about every session for over a year, but eventually needed to add some of the variant wonders/leaders in the game to address midgame +culture domination. Unlike Dan, 2p TtA is still Top Shelf for me, but I agree that 3p is much more intense and the ultimate way to play.


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I don't believe that 2p is ideal, though it is still a great game with only two.
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MajorOracle wrote:
I think it works well with 2 players, although you should be aware that Pacts are not used in a 2 player game (I think that's the only difference). You still have many tough and enjoyable choices to make.

The sweet spot for this game seems to be 3 players, as 4 players can tend to cause some down time waiting for your turn.


I agree 100%. Best with three, great with two (but very different), not so great with four.
 
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At least 50 of my 55 plays have been 2-player games. It's great heads-up.
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It's a great two player game. Dynamite!
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Absolutely yes. Plays terrifically with 2. Complete no-brainer to purchase even if only ever playing with 2.
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Hi,

one of the best games for players. Played it over 30 times so far...
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its a great game with 2!
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It's an awesome game with 2, 3 and 4 players. I'd play it at any given moment with any number of players.

I have played the game with 2 players about 28 times, and it's marvellous. Definitely a must-purchase even if you'll only play it with two.
 
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Plays outstandingly with 2.


3 is fine but long with AP players so 2 is ideal for me.
 
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As a lot of people have said, it works fine for 2 players, but I feel that 3 players is the best number. You can't have pacts with 2 players and that is something I enjoy.
 
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It plays very well with two players. The only difficulty playing with two is that there can be a runaway leader. Both players must be very attentive so they don't fall behind in any phase of the civilization. There is absolutely zero catch up mechanisms in the two player.
 
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Here's another thumbsup for 2-player TtA!
 
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Very good with 2. Excellent with 3
 
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Yes, though the experience is very different than with more participants. Firstly, I would advise using the "Friendly" variant while having a head-to-head game, as more often than not one of the players will achieve a far greater military score than his opponent, and without other players to keep him in check - will end the game with a single War over Territory\Holy War or just a couple of aggressions head-on.

I assure you, playing with this variant (for two players) does not reduce the impact of military superiority as it applies on both colonizations and strength-based events throught the game (not to mention age III Impact cards that might apply).

Enjoy!
 
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How much time should be set aside for the first time learning to play in a 2-player Simple Game, assuming we don't get too caught up with trying to make great plays the first time around? 2 hours?
 
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How much time should be set aside for the first time learning to play in a 2-player Simple Game, assuming we don't get too caught up with trying to make great plays the first time around? 2 hours?


Just took us 2 hours to learn. I read and re-read the rules before hand and still have a few questions and I am itching to play again.
 
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I didn't really have time to read the rules beforehand so the session went something like...

1. Set up the board while reading the setup rules
2. Read the First Round rules
3. Play the First Round
4. Read the Second Round rules
5. Play the Second Round
6. Read the rules for the remaining rounds
7. Actually play the game, continuing to refer back to the rules as needed

It ended up taking 3 hours for the Simple Game (1-6 probably accounted for at least half of that), and it only felt like we accomplished the equivalent of half a game of RFTG.

That being said, it was still fun, and I'm still anxious to try the Advanced game!
 
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