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Played our first game last night. My first question is, if there are monsters and rooms that did not get bought, do they just get discarded and new ones are picked in the next buying round?

Second thought. We played a 2 player game last night. It seemed like the non player was always the most evil. Does anyone else get that same result? I am sure I was moving him up and down according to the rules or a 2 player game. My wife and I never got the most strongest hero, the non player got it. Kinda weird. Tell me what you think.

Thanks.
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Leftover rooms and monsters are discarded after the round, yes.
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eroc1024 wrote:
Played our first game last night. My first question is, if there are monsters and rooms that did not get bought, do they just get discarded and new ones are picked in the next buying round?


Yes, you discard the ones that weren't bought and take new ones from the distant lands board for the next round.

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eroc1024 wrote:
Second thought. We played a 2 player game last night. It seemed like the non player was always the most evil. Does anyone else get that same result? I am sure I was moving him up and down according to the rules or a 2 player game. My wife and I never got the most strongest hero, the non player got it. Kinda weird. Tell me what you think.


Are you sure you were moving your own evilometer tokens up correctly? I know that in our first game we missed a bunch. For example, you need to move it up whenever you take a ghost, vampire, witch...You also need to move it up when you let monsters go.

That combined with moving the non-player piece on the evilometer down by 2 after the first year put us both ahead of the non-player character. In fact, I ended up with the paladin in both 1st and 2nd year devil

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eroc1024 wrote:
Second thought. We played a 2 player game last night. It seemed like the non player was always the most evil. Does anyone else get that same result? I am sure I was moving him up and down according to the rules or a 2 player game. My wife and I never got the most strongest hero, the non player got it. Kinda weird. Tell me what you think.

Thanks.


In my 1st 2-player game I bought 2 Vampires - I quickly red-lined the evilometer and attracted both Paladins during the game. Still won though! (just don't ask what the final point score was blush )

EDIT: David, yes, once you go big evil, there's no point turning back! devil
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eroc1024 wrote:
Played our first game last night. My first question is, if there are monsters and rooms that did not get bought, do they just get discarded and new ones are picked in the next buying round?

Second thought. We played a 2 player game last night. It seemed like the non player was always the most evil. Does anyone else get that same result? I am sure I was moving him up and down according to the rules or a 2 player game. My wife and I never got the most strongest hero, the non player got it. Kinda weird. Tell me what you think.

Thanks.


3 player game, the non-player definitely did NOT become most evil, because they weren't buying monsters that required evil as payment.

Further, we weren't executing the 'Reputation' order when the NPC did it, he just took up room on the order's spaces. That might have something to do with your NPC's being really good.
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Unclaimed Monsters and Rooms go the the Distant Lands board (are discarded).

The "dummy" player on the evilometer largely depends on what monsters are being taken by the "actual" players. Taking the Witch and/or the Vampire (particularly before payday) will generally put you ahead of the dummy on the evilometer.

Also, it is almost impossible for the dummy to "gain evil" since he does not take the actions of the space he is on. So for example, if he is on the second or third Food space, he does not gain any evil, he is just removed from the space as if he opted against taking the action. I would guess you did not play that rule correctly if your dummy player was high up the track.

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eroc1024 wrote:
Second thought. We played a 2 player game last night. It seemed like the non player was always the most evil. Does anyone else get that same result? I am sure I was moving him up and down according to the rules or a 2 player game. My wife and I never got the most strongest hero, the non player got it. Kinda weird. Tell me what you think.


You assign adventurers 3 4 times per Year. Each time adventurers are assigned the non-player moves up 1 space. That's a total of 3 4 spaces up in Year 1. Before Year Two the non-player evil marker is moved down 2 spaces. Then the marker will move another 3 4 spaces up during Year 2.

Unless I am missing something I think that is the only time the non-player evil marker moves. This doesn't seem like a situation that can't be overcome, as long as you make it a goal to increase your evilness.

FYI: I haven't played two-player yet, so this is just me thinking out loud.

Edit: Adventurers are only assigned in 3 seasons.
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jearles wrote:
eroc1024 wrote:
Second thought. We played a 2 player game last night. It seemed like the non player was always the most evil. Does anyone else get that same result? I am sure I was moving him up and down according to the rules or a 2 player game. My wife and I never got the most strongest hero, the non player got it. Kinda weird. Tell me what you think.


You assign adventurers 4 times per Year. Each time adventurers are assigned the non-player moves up 1 space. That's a total of 4 spaces up in Year 1. Before Year Two the non-player evil marker is moved down 2 spaces. Then the marker will move another 4 spaces up during Year 2.


This is incorrect. You only assign adventurers 3 times in a year.
So the non-player marker moves up 3.

You then move it down 2 to simulate lost rooms.

It then moves up another 3 during the next year. The total it will move is 4.
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out4blood wrote:
You only assign adventurers 3 times in a year.
So the non-player marker moves up 3..


Is 'move NPC evil up one per adventurer assignment phase' on your list of 'stuff everyone forgets?

We definitely forgot that one.
 
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out4blood wrote:
jearles wrote:
eroc1024 wrote:
Second thought. We played a 2 player game last night. It seemed like the non player was always the most evil. Does anyone else get that same result? I am sure I was moving him up and down according to the rules or a 2 player game. My wife and I never got the most strongest hero, the non player got it. Kinda weird. Tell me what you think.


You assign adventurers 4 times per Year. Each time adventurers are assigned the non-player moves up 1 space. That's a total of 4 spaces up in Year 1. Before Year Two the non-player evil marker is moved down 2 spaces. Then the marker will move another 4 spaces up during Year 2.


This is incorrect. You only assign adventurers 3 times in a year.
So the non-player marker moves up 3.

You then move it down 2 to simulate lost rooms.

It then moves up another 3 during the next year. The total it will move is 4.


Even more to my point

Thanks... typed too fast and confused the number of seasons with the number of adventurer assignings - Winter being a short season.
 
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