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Neil Sorenson
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With sprayable, flexible liquid glass!

http://www.physorg.com/news184310039.html
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I wonder how well it will shuffle.... interesting.
 
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And don't hit it or it will shatter.
 
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Don't carry this in your pocket.
 
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sounds like dangerous stuff to me.
 
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Generic nod to science:

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the nano-scale glass coating bonds to the surface because of the quantum forces involved.

and the obligatory conspiracy theory:

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Other outlets, such as many supermarkets, may be unwilling to stock the products because they make enormous profits from cleaning products that need to be replaced regularly, and liquid glass would make virtually all of them obsolete.

It won't be long before this is being sold on late-night home shopping channels. Too bad we no longer have Billie Mays.
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MEGA-Cool!

Screw Scotch-gaurd! *grin*

 
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Wow. If it's half as cool as they claim it is, well, very cool:

"The spray cannot be seen by the naked eye, which means it could also be used to treat clothing and other materials to make them stain-resistant. McClelland said you can “pour a bottle of wine over an expensive silk shirt and it will come right off”."

If it is unnoticeable on a silk shirt, I imagine it will be equally unnoticeable on cards/boards/etc., and the idea of cards/boards that could easily shrug off a spill of a staining liquid is pretty awesome. Article claims it will be available at DIY stores in Britain soon for around 5 pounds. Would love to hear a report...
 
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TGov wrote:
sounds like dangerous stuff to me.


Based on what? The whole article talks about how safe it is.

It sounds dangerous to me too, but that's because my wife works for Clorox...
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Smells like snake oil to me

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If the story published two months from now, I'd say it is an April fools joke. This almost sounds too good to be true...
 
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jober72 wrote:
Smells like snake oil to me



Poo on you!

I'm getting buckets of this stuff. Forget my cards and boards. I've been looking for a way to protect my silk shirt collection for years.
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...and it comes in 8 delicious flavors!
 
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Also works great as an insect exterminator. Spray ‘em midair, and watch ‘em drop. Safe to handle the corpses, since you’re not actually touching the insect. Don’t breathe it in, though...
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LordHellfury wrote:
Dannysland wrote:
Another alarm bell -- unwillingness to explain the magic formula:

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When asked about how the technology works, Neil, said “In essence, we extract molecules of SiO2 (the primary constituent of glass) from quartz sand, and then we add the molecules to water or ethanol. Unfortunately, as they say in the movies , if I told you any more …..”.


(From the company's webpage)


I think that's actually quite understandable. That information is proprietary and you dont want to let the general public knowing how to easily make the stuff until the patent is no longer valid (and thus you wont make any money from the patent).


Wrong. Patents specifically *must* reveal how it is made, otherwise they are not valid. That's the entire point of patents.

If it's a trade secret, then you are correct, but in that case it can remain secret forever. See, for instance, Coca Cola.
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LordHellfury wrote:
Dannysland wrote:
Another alarm bell -- unwillingness to explain the magic formula:

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When asked about how the technology works, Neil, said “In essence, we extract molecules of SiO2 (the primary constituent of glass) from quartz sand, and then we add the molecules to water or ethanol. Unfortunately, as they say in the movies , if I told you any more …..”.


(From the company's webpage)


I think that's actually quite understandable. That information is proprietary and you dont want to let the general public knowing how to easily make the stuff until the patent is no longer valid (and thus you wont make any money from the patent).


Anyone can obtain a copy of the patent and read how they do it.

They just cannot make money off of said process until the patent expires.

Who can look up the patent in the country of origin?
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The site seems to be presenting itself as if this were a physics news site. Yey it's not one I recognize. Were this product real, sometihng would have been said in reliable sources because it would be a useful product.

What they describe doing sounds like it's actually just dissolving silicates in water and so not surprisingly the result is not visible to the naked yeet because there's nothing there.
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I'll believe it when I see it. I used to work on developing a process to deposit glass on metal parts. If the part wasn't VERY clean, it didn't stick very well.

Anything that relies on "quantum forces" for adhesion is going to run into the same problem.
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And you can spray your children. They will grow faster and be much healthier.
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whac3 wrote:
The site seems to be presenting itself as if this were a physics news site. Yey it's not one I recognize. Were this product real, sometihng would have been said in reliable sources because it would be a useful product.

What they describe doing sounds like it's actually just dissolving silicates in water and so not surprisingly the result is not visible to the naked yeet because there's nothing there.


PhysOrg IS a physics news site. It's been around for a few years now and does what it does pretty well, that is, reporting out a high volume of sci/tech news daily. If you have reason to be cautious, it's not because this is made up, but because the article is single-sourced; you're only getting the perspective of the company and not of any outside scientists/nanotech experts/health and safety regulators.
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Great! One coat of this, and I'll never need to shower again--just a spritz of windex and I'm good to go.
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LordHellfury wrote:
I wonder if they can maintain it as a proprietary knowledge with health concerns being an issue, or if it will require patent.


RTA. It notes that there is a patent.
 
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dyfrgi wrote:

RTA. It notes that there is a patent.


Unfortunately they don't mention the country they patented it in. I can't seem to find anything in a quick USPTO search, and I don't know what other countries have their patent records online.
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Until someone invents "instant shrink-wrap card sleeves", I may have to look into this.
 
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From the article:

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Since it is available in both water-based and alcohol-based solutions, it can be used in the oven, in bathrooms, tiles, sinks, and almost every other surface in the home, and one spray is said to last a year.


Ok, if one spray is supposed to last a year, then that means it wears off.

If it wears off, the little microscopic shards of glass have to go somewhere, which I bet plays hell with things like electronics, hard drives, and probably corneas.

Whether this is a miracle product or not, I hope that some serious testing gets done before manufacturers start coating their product with it, and it start showing up on shelves without the public being aware.
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