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FFG boxes... possibly the most fragile, worst quality boxes i have ever seen (and that even includes boxes from small publishers!)

I opened the lid of my Chaos in the Old World box... carefully. But one corner came apart

I removed the countersheets, picked up the box and... there goes another side! Amazing!

It reminded me of my copy of Runebound. Similar trashy box!

FFG you are now a large publisher so maybe it is time to stop producing these low cost crap boxes and make something of better quality that people can actually pick up without coming apart. Check a few German boxes as an example of good quality boxes if you don't know how to do it...





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hmm really?

I have opened many FFG boxes, even for the games you mentionned, never had a single problem...
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Not to tempt karma, but I have not had any problems either. These FFG boxes are incredible compared to the old GW boxes.
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Not to tempt karma, but I have not had any problems either. These FFG boxes are incredible compared to the old GW boxes.


QFT

the old GW boxes were complete garbage

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I own quite a collection of FFG games (TI3, Warrior Knights, Starcraft, Game of Thrones, Britannia, ...you get the picture), and I've always felt these were some of the sturdiest game boxes I own (next to my GMT Commands & Colors Ancients boxes - those things are armored). I can't say I would agree with your assessment - I have never had a problem with any of my FFG boxes coming apart - not even close.

Maybe you just have bad luck when it comes to game boxes?
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My CitOW box is very sturdy. Perhaps it's a different printer for the version you get in Greece or are you importing the US version?
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desertfox2004 wrote:
I own quite a collection of FFG games (TI3, Warrior Knights, Starcraft, Game of Thrones, Britannia, ...you get the picture), and I've always felt these were some of the sturdiest game boxes I own (next to my GMT Commands & Colors Ancients boxes - those things are armored). I can't say I would agree with your assessment - I have never had a problem with any of my FFG boxes coming apart - not even close.

Maybe you just have bad luck when it comes to game boxes?


GREAT description of the C&C:A boxes!!! laugh

And I'll add my voice to those who've never had Problem #1 with a box from FFG...
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Sorry to hear your box isnt up to par. Maybe in a random sampling of one, you got the {fluffybunny} end of the stick.
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Have to agree with the others - FFG boxes tend to be the sturdiest of all the games I own.
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None of my FFG boxes have had any problems. None of my friends boxes either.
 
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You must've gotten the short straw on your boxes. All of my FFG boxes are some of the best that I have. Now, the old GW ones...
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Ive had trouble with two of my FFG boxes too, CitOW and BSG blew out corners rather easily on the cover side.
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jwoodall04 wrote:
I think I could beat someone to death with my GMT boxes. FFG hold up to shelf wear alright though.

If I were to really choose a box as weapon though I think I'd go with Valley Games Titan. That thing is a beast.

Wait, what was this thread about?


I will have to call... BOXFIGHT! arrrh
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Could it be that your seller is acquiring FFG ding & dent games?
 
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I find FFG boxes to be pretty good. Only UPS can break them shake
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My Chaos in the Old world and a few other FFG boxes have split.

I've probably opened it 10-15 times.

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I've had the occasional issue with a FFG box not having the paper glued to the cardboard very well, but I'm mostly happy.
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I noticed the same thing with Middle-earth Quest. The components were pretty, but felt like they were made of cheaper grade board than previous games in my collection.

I would not be surprised if they were cutting a few corners. They've kinda component-ized themselves into a corner. Like they are afraid the "fans" would be disappointed with a great game that had no plastic in it.

I for one wouldn't mind less plastic and flash in lieu of better cardboard.
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It sounds like maybe more recent FFG offerings are the ones with the problems. I haven't bought any of the newest FFG games, so maybe they've cut a corner or two in the last year or so?
 
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jwoodall04 wrote:
I think I could beat someone to death with my GMT boxes. FFG hold up to shelf wear alright though.

If I were to really choose a box as weapon though I think I'd go with Valley Games Titan. That thing is a beast.

Wait, what was this thread about?


I've never held a Valley Games Titan box in my hands but I think my Z-man 2009 Tales of the Arabian Nights box could be a strong competitor.

I've owned several FFG games (War of the Ring, Arkham Horror, World of Warcraft: The Boardgame, and most recently Runewars) and have never had a problem with the boxes. You might just have really bad luck with boxes
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You have disturbed the FFG army! They will rise up against you and flood you with such useful anecdotes as "I own 2109 FFG games and they are all fine!", "your retailer suxxx", and "keep your cats out of the box lids newb".

For what it's worth, I have had two FFG boxes (out of a total of 5 games) split corners without much effort on my part. For a frame of reference, the games that split are games which have only left my house twice. Compare this to the other ~100 german games I have owned, many of which have been lugged around for years in everything from a backpack to my bare hands, and only sustained two split corners, one of which was due to being literally stepped on.
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I would agree somewhat. I don't think they've been terrible by any means, but I've had a couple of blowouts in my larger FFG boxes. World of Warcraft the Boardgame got a rip in the top. I think it's actually because the box is almost air tight so you have to be careful and not push the lid on too quickly.

I could probably stack a couple GMT boxes and use them as a step ladder. Those things are bulletproof.
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Brand new shrink-wrapped copy of Tide of Iron.

Had one of the corners split the first day.
 
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Dude, you need a new hobby. Just an opinion.
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dcorban wrote:
You have disturbed the FFG army! They will rise up against you and flood you with such useful anecdotes as "I own 2109 FFG games and they are all fine!", "your retailer suxxx", and "keep your cats out of the box lids newb".

For what it's worth, I have had two FFG boxes (out of a total of 5 games) split corners without much effort on my part. For a frame of reference, the games that split are games which have only left my house twice. Compare this to the other ~100 german games I have owned, many of which have been lugged around for years in everything from a backpack to my bare hands, and only sustained two split corners, one of which was due to being literally stepped on.


I'm a far cry from the FFG army, and I'll rise up and say that the few FFG games I own have very sturdy boxes that have held up very well. I tend to care for my games, though, so *shrugs*

I would suspect that the larger boxes -- Tide of Iron, World of Warcraft, Starcraft, etc -- will be more susceptible to splitting simply because their size isn't very conducive to structural integrity. Am I really talking about the structural integrity of game boxes???

Kill me now.
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