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We have been hard at work over the past few weeks rewriting our item system. The changes you should see at the user level should be minor -- slight layout changes to the item pages, some differences in the process for submitting new items to the database. The changes internally are huge, and although we have fixed all of the bugs we have found, if anything seems off, please report it here, and we'll try to fix it right away
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I dont like the stars for the rating. Its too wide and easier to see the number.

and I know the number is visible on mouse over.
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I like the new layout on the games. More minimal and modern.
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It just seems to be (much) slower than before to load the pages (not just the first time, so I don't think it's a cache issue).

Besides, I also get an odd effect when scrolling down the page (any page on BGG: forum, games, etc.): I can go on scrolling down forever (even if I just get a white background with merely an ad on the side... I suppose it's a "bug" due to the ad itself?). Only with Firefox 3.5.7 (IE 7 works properly).
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I don't like the lack of number ratings, either. Stars are a nice imdB touch, but without the letters just makes extra work to see the current rating.
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Yeah, I'm with the others. The changes are great, but we need to see the NUMBERS of the ratings (in addition to the stars). Ratings are important, so they should be easy to read.
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I third the anti-star sentiment. Perhaps a color-coded number, like the ratings we submit, would be a nice alternative?

The stars are nice visually, but not quite 'accurate' enough for my sensibility. I would think, being that a large, large percentage of us all would consider ourselves to be 'geeks', that a more mathematically sound version of a rating would be a more popular option.

Maybe not?
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Love the new look. Please bring back the number ratings though.
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Bring back the ratings!!! devil
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This is funny - I had a bet that nobody would notice that.
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Overall good changes.
Please include the rating number as well as the stars.
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Aldie wrote:
This is funny - I had a bet that nobody would notice that.

With as much pissing and arguing about ratings on this site, you thought it would go unnoticed?
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yup numbers are the go, especially seeing the rather low diversity or the ratings anyway.
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Aldie wrote:
This is funny - I had a bet that nobody would notice that.

Actually it was the first thing I noticed.

Please bring it back.
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I'm with the other guys - the rating is one of the first things I look at and scrolling to the statistics block to find it is annoying.
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The new headings for the item (game) view looks much nicer. I like the simple presentation of destinations within the page.


That said, I agree with the anti-star sentiment that has been expressed thus far, but would liek to provide a slightly different suggestion.

stars are a "visualization", in this case a visualization of a number and are basically a fancy bar chart.

Bar charts are great for comparing things side-by-side, and I think that the star ratings would be a welcome addition to a tabular presentation of games. A good example is the "top 100" games view, or the search results. Unfortunately, neither of them show the "star bars" at this time.

A bar representing something's popularity is not very useful when you present only one of them; there's nothing to compare it to. I think that the headers should show either just the game's numeric rating, or the rating next to the number of stars.

Recommendation: I would recommend using the star ratings sparingly, primarily when showing more than one game and always coupled with the numeric rating which people are used to, and is more useful in many cases.
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cbs42 wrote:
Aldie wrote:
This is funny - I had a bet that nobody would notice that.

With as much pissing and arguing about ratings on this site, you thought it would go unnoticed?
laugh


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ignozius wrote:

Actually it was the first thing I noticed. :)


The first thing I noticed is that my custom game page formatting is gone. Will that be coming back, do I need to re-do my preferences, or what?

Actually, upon further checking, some game pages are showing my formatting, and others are showing what appears to be the default...
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Aldie wrote:
This is funny - I had a bet that nobody would notice that.

Well, if it makes you feel better, I didn't notice until it was pointed out to me on this thread!
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clemtiger007 wrote:
cbs42 wrote:
Aldie wrote:
This is funny - I had a bet that nobody would notice that.

With as much pissing and arguing about ratings on this site, you thought it would go unnoticed?
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Goes to show we all seem to have nothing better to do...
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fnord23 wrote:
ignozius wrote:

Actually it was the first thing I noticed.


The first thing I noticed is that my custom game page formatting is gone. Will that be coming back, do I need to re-do my preferences, or what?

Actually, upon further checking, some game pages are showing my formatting, and others are showing what appears to be the default...

The custom layouts should be working, although you may have to save a new custom layout because we have some new modules.

Which pages are the custom layouts not working for?
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I first noticed that the title bar appeared thicker and a different font? Then I noticed the stars. I think star ratings are good in a presentation of 5 stars but with 10 its just to much to visually determine at a glance. I would rather se 7.32 or something.

Both is fine to. Or better yet if you did different coloured stars so that the colour of the stars was dependant on ratings.

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Don't y'all remember the old header with the stars?

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Aldie wrote:
Don't y'all remember the old header with the stars?



remember....
wait what are we talking about
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dakarp wrote:

The custom layouts should be working, although you may have to save a new custom layout because we have some new modules.

Which pages are the custom layouts not working for?


Quick examples:
Working: Uruk: Wiege der Zivilisation
Not Working: Race for the Galaxy: Rebel vs Imperium


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