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We've enjoyed playing St Petersburg, Notre Dame and Stone Age on a regular basis. Looking for a good euro that takes 60-90 minutes, can be played with two players, and has the depth and complexity and style of games like those. So something more than Carcassonne/TTR/Dominion, but not as heavy as Agricola. What might be a good medium-weight euro that fits these requirements? We're not looking for something totally different (i.e. no co-op or war or abstracts or tile-laying), but just a good solid game that plays well with two and takes at least an hour.
 
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Perhaps Kingsburg or Livingstone. Maybe Cuba, though that might flirt with the upper edge of your heaviness requirement.
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Power Grid: Factory Manager - Plays great two player, and the play time is within your requirements. I feel this is a perfect choice!

Caylus - It is on the heavier side, and a bit longer then your looking for, but this is a fun two player game. At least check it out.

Samurai - Great two player game, that scales well. It is fast too.

 
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Vikings!

I also agree that you should check out Cuba.
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Thurn and Taxis would be a good choice.
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Thank you for the suggestions so far. San Juan and Vikings (have played both) are almost a bit too light for what we're looking for currently. Any more ideas?
 
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maxmaven wrote:
Thank you for the suggestions so far. San Juan and Vikings (have played both) are almost a bit too light for what we're looking for currently. Any more ideas?


How about:
Goa
Louis XIV
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maxmaven wrote:
So something more than Carcassonne/TTR/Dominion, but not as heavy as Agricola.


Why do you say that ?

Have you played it ?

I would say that 2p Agricola is not much heavier than any of the other games you mention, and will take you about an hour ... First games will be a little longer.

If you love those other three, I think you'll really enjoy it.


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Starships of Catan is a great two player market game disguised as an adventure.
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Moviebuffs wrote:
maxmaven wrote:
So something more than Carcassonne/TTR/Dominion, but not as heavy as Agricola.

Why do you say that ? Have you played it ? I would say that 2p Agricola is not much heavier than any of the other games you mention, and will take you about an hour ... First games will be a little longer. If you love those other three, I think you'll really enjoy it.

Played it with some friends. Good game, but caused some brain melt. So we're looking for something not quite as intense a gaming experience.
 
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Primordial Soup would be a great geme totally different.
The weight would fit, even the luck in the geme is not to little.
 
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Manoeuvre, Small World and 1960: The Making of the President aren't similar in style to the games you mentioned, but they're my favorite medium-weight games for 60-90 min 2-player, and they're popular with the ladies. Small World might appeal because the race/power draft might remind you of Saint Petersburg. And it's a lot deeper than how it first appears.

Arkadia is, like the 3 you mentioned, another euro that plays well with 2, and the ladies ADORE this game (I think it's the puzzle aspect).

In the Year of the Dragon is very reminiscent of Stone Age and Notre Dame, and 2er is interesting for a while (but ultimately not as good as with more players).

The Pillars of the Earth (but only with the expansion set if you want to play 2er). This is a little risky because the cost is high, and Stone Age players either love or hate Pillars -- there's no middle ground. People who hate it complain that Stone Age does the same things more elegantly etc, whereas those who love it appreciate it as a different take on the same genre of games.
 
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Arkadia is a great recommendation. Louis XIV is also a good game for two. Some games I haven't played, but seem to fit with your requirements are:

A Castle for All Seasons
Diamonds Club
Vasco da Gama
Macao (just released)
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Kingsburg - Currently one of the wife's top three favorites. Her other 2 favorites? Stone Age and Notre Dame.
I wouldn't ever turn down a play for any of those three games either.
The only issue is we felt it needed the To Forge a Realm expansion.
This up'd the long term playability tremedously.

In the Year of the Dragon - I haven't played, but from what I have read, is very similar to Notre Dame. Some people consider it better. Check out some of the reviews and pics for it. See if it is something you would enjoy.



 
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Perhaps Lost Cities (either the two player card game, or the board game) seem to be what you are looking for. Certainly Thurn & Taxis would be in those lines. Absolutely recommend Kingsburg also. Perhaps Zooloretto or Aquaretto may also work for you.

Note that St. Pete, Stone Age and Notre Dame are two of my favorites also.
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mutilatedlips wrote:

In the Year of the Dragon - I haven't played, but from what I have read, is very similar to Notre Dame. Some people consider it better. Check out some of the reviews and pics for it. See if it is something you would enjoy.


Notre Dame is one of my favorite games, and I do not think it is at all like In the Year of the Dragon. In the Year of the Dragon is mean to the players, and while it was made by the same designer, I don't think it would fit what you are looking for at all.
 
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My wife and I thoroughly enjoy Pandemic and 1960: The Making of the President. We just purchased Twilight Struggle, but have yet to play it.
 
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revengeisnotjustice wrote:
mutilatedlips wrote:

In the Year of the Dragon - I haven't played, but from what I have read, is very similar to Notre Dame. Some people consider it better. Check out some of the reviews and pics for it. See if it is something you would enjoy.


Notre Dame is one of my favorite games, and I do not think it is at all like In the Year of the Dragon. In the Year of the Dragon is mean to the players, and while it was made by the same designer, I don't think it would fit what you are looking for at all.


Similarities between games go beyond "mean". In the Year of the Dragon is the mean version of Notre Dame, which is glorified multiplayer solitaire (though less so with 2 players).

Similarities:
- Draft a somewhat random special-power action every round, though IYD's system limits the action to others after somebody picks it (this is where the "mean-ness" comes from)
- Playing stuff into your playing area that give you advantages in certain areas
- Managing several resources at once and balancing trade-offs between them for maximum VP gain.

You'll very probably like IYD if you like ND. 2er ND is already pretty cutthroat, so don't worry too much about it in IYD.
 
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Some very promising suggestions. These three particularly sound like good possibilities, I'd welcome more comments on their suitability:
Arkadia
In the Year of the Dragon (not too nasty?)
Vasco da Gama

Cuba is perhaps too heavy and long and less than ideal with two players?
 
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