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Graydon Schlichter
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So, I saw the Tanga deal and I thought "a steal of a game and Thomas Lehmann? How do I pass this up?"

But I will never get a 4 1/2 hour game to the table (Runewars is shorter than that now, and will likely get shorter with more plays). So, is the estimate accurate? Safe? Too conservative? What do people find?

And I know, mmwv, but thanks for your help.

Graydon

 
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The first time you play it, figure on an hour per player, or maybe a little more. The combat system has multiple steps, which can slow things down until you're familiar with it. (But it's part of the "meat" that makes this game better than TI3, IMO.)

If you don't go long between playings, then the subsequent games should speed up - more like 40 minutes per player.
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Let's see -- rummage, rummage -- what time did I put on that box over a decade ago? Ah, yes, 3-6 hours. That's a fair estimate.

I think it would take a really brisk group of 4 experienced players to bring down the game length to 3 hours (I've seen it done). 2 players can easily do it. 6 is probably impossible. (The map size scales somewhat with additional players.)

And, due to the ending, like Time Agent, if players aren't willing to be bold and go for it, then the game can drag on.

ThroneWorld is a highly streamlined 4E -- explore, expand, exploit, exterminate -- game with a sudden-death "King of the Hill" ending.

If you've ever played 4E games on a computer, you know they take a long time (and that's playing against fast computer opponents). Getting ThroneWorld down to 3-4 hours (with brisk play) took a lot of development.
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Seems reasonable, but it depends on group think.

One (interesting, to me) feature of Throneworld is that you can't attack players without a turn of preparation (scanning the system) which means if I player gets to the Victory condition (which you have to defend for a turn) before other players notice, they may not be able to realistically attack to stop it. In that case, the first players game may be shorter than the 2nd/3rd game.

Of course, that assumes aggressive expansion, which is tough to do since you don't have a good feel for combat.
 
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Graethynne wrote:
So, I saw the Tanga deal and I thought "a steal of a game and Thomas Lehmann? How do I pass this up?"


My oath....so did I!

I was surprised when I found that they were also prepared to ship my order to Australia for less than US$20 all up!

Tom, that's another game box you'll have to autograph when you are in Sydney again.
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promuso wrote:
Graethynne wrote:
So, I saw the Tanga deal and I thought "a steal of a game and Thomas Lehmann? How do I pass this up?"


My oath....so did I!

I was surprised when I found that they were also prepared to ship my order to Australia for less than US$20 all up!

Tom, that's another game box you'll have to autograph when you are in Sydney again.


How do you get Tanga to ship to Australia?


 
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At this price the game is a steal. Very enjoyable, but yes it's long!
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da pyrate wrote:

How do you get Tanga to ship to Australia?


er.....I ordered on-line, paid by PayPal and recieved an email stating that the order was going to be processed & delivered.

Am I missing something here?



 
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Tanga used to only ship to the USA. Apparently, that's no longer the case.
 
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promuso wrote:
da pyrate wrote:

How do you get Tanga to ship to Australia?


er.....I ordered on-line, paid by PayPal and recieved an email stating that the order was going to be processed & delivered.

Am I missing something here?





would you order one for me too!

they tell me that they only ship in the US.

 
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I wish all Tom's games could get a reprint! I love his sci-fi bent.
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promuso wrote:
da pyrate wrote:

How do you get Tanga to ship to Australia?


er.....I ordered on-line, paid by PayPal and recieved an email stating that the order was going to be processed & delivered.

Am I missing something here?





I suspect so...
 
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smart arse.
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promuso wrote:


smart arse.


You have a nice day too, good sir.
 
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Before anybody else overseas gets too excited over Tanga deals (as I did), I was refunded my payment to them with the note that they do not ship overseas.

Of course, you could of told me that.
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