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Matt Tonks
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So after you have the 2 Office(?) cards & draw 4 B/P cards for use to determine the Prestige value, the rules say the players need to remove 0/1/2 of the B/P cards if they are playing with 4/3/2 players.

How is this supposed to be done exactly; random, players choosing, first player choosing, etc? The English rules makes no mention of this as far as I can see.
 
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Jon W
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It's explicit under 1.3. Here's the full rule:

1.3) Depending on the number of players, the players now remove 0-2
of the face-up building/person cards (and discard them): with 4 players,
remove no cards; with 3 players, remove the last drawn B/P card; and
with 2 players, remove the last two drawn B/P cards. Office cards are not
removed.


EDIT: I highlighted the germane parts.
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The way we did it when playing with two was to lay out the two office cards and deal out two B/P cards next to them as the cards for the round.

Then, flip the top two off the deck to add the gold/points values ... didn't really lay them out, just used them to check the numbers.


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Matt Musselman
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Moviebuffs wrote:
The way we did it when playing with two was to lay out the two office cards and deal out two B/P cards next to them as the cards for the round.

Then, flip the top two off the deck to add the gold/points values ... didn't really lay them out, just used them to check the numbers.
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I like that idea, and it helps avoid the "false hopes" situation that we had, where someone starts making plans on the cards as soon as they were turned over for tribute calculation, forgetting that one or two of them were about to be immediately discarded.
 
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Maybe I don't see the reasoning, but why are the last two cards removed in a 2 player game? If they are to be removed right away why are they even drawn in the first place?
 
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Putzmanrudy1 wrote:
Maybe I don't see the reasoning, but why are the last two cards removed in a 2 player game? If they are to be removed right away why are they even drawn in the first place?


To set up the influence per money track [can't remember the name] on the left side of the board.

Edit - Found it:

1.2) Next, the “tribute value” is calculated: to do this, the players add all
yellow numbers at the bottom left hand corner of the six face-up cards
and place the beige disc on the left side of the tribute table on the number
matching the sum (the result can be also 0). Similarly, the players sum the
red numbers on the lower right and mark this on the right side of the table
(also here the result can be 0). The tribute table shows the exchange value:
the number of gold coins (GC) a player must spend to “buy” how many
prestige points (PP).

It's there just to calculate the values each turn. After that to make it relatively the same difficulty as with 3 or 4, 2 cards are removed in a 2 player game instead of giving 2 players more choices that aren't there in a 3 or 4 player game.
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