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i'm looking for games that are 2-3 players (if its more its ok, but has to be good 2-3)
Must be easy to teach, but can be quite complex, if the complexity is not in the rules
No Language Dependency.
Bonus if a person with bad sight can play it without too much effort.

One that crosses my mind is Ingenious, but maybe there are better matches.
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Tongiakiis simple and fun. I don't think it's that deep, but the randomness gives it high replay value. Use the two-player variant (look under the Rules forum under the game itself). Virtually no printed text in-game.
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König von Siam

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1. Condotierre (mixed card and boardgame) - 2-6
2. The Pillars of the Earth - 2-4

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Memoir'44 (mixed card and boardgame) - 2-8, [light language dependency]

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nightbomber wrote:
2. The Pillars of the Earth - 2-4


Language dependency in reading all of the cards.
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Carcassonne, Ticket to Ride, and Stone Age are great for 2-3 players, easy to learn, and have no language dependency. They are considered very complex to master but they had some depth.
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TwentySides wrote:
Carcassonne, Ticket to Ride, and Stone Age are great for 2-3 players, easy to learn, and have no language dependency. They are considered very complex to master but they had some depth.


I own Ticket to Ride Europe and Carcassonne, they indeed work well, but i was trying to push my family a step foward on the ladder of gaming and get a bit more complex.

I havent tried Hansa Teutonica, i still have to read the rules, who knows maybe i already have a good solution..
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I'll throw in Lost Cities: The Board Game and Small World. Both are games my whole family enjoy. (And easy to get the non gamers in too!)

Maybe even Pandemic, really simple to play, nail biting stuff as your team desperately attempts to save the world!
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I would heartily recommend adding The End of the Triumvirate to your list. It can be played with two or three, but is IDEAL with three.
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You might want to take a look at Traders of Osaka which has all the qualities you are seeking.

*Easy to learn
*Challenging to play well
*Plays best with 2 and with 3 works well
*Components are almost all color-coded with very minimal language
*Can be played in 30 minutes or so
*Plays big for such a small game
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tdbs wrote:
TwentySides wrote:
Carcassonne, Ticket to Ride, and Stone Age are great for 2-3 players, easy to learn, and have no language dependency. They are considered very complex to master but they had some depth.


I own Ticket to Ride Europe and Carcassonne, they indeed work well, but i was trying to push my family a step foward on the ladder of gaming and get a bit more complex.

I havent tried Hansa Teutonica, i still have to read the rules, who knows maybe i already have a good solution..


Hansa Teutonica is EXCELLENT with 3!!!! Very simple and easy to learn, but a satisfying complex and evolving game each time!
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tdbs wrote:
TwentySides wrote:
Carcassonne, Ticket to Ride, and Stone Age are great for 2-3 players, easy to learn, and have no language dependency. They are considered very complex to master but they had some depth.


I own Ticket to Ride Europe and Carcassonne, they indeed work well, but i was trying to push my family a step foward on the ladder of gaming and get a bit more complex.

I havent tried Hansa Teutonica, i still have to read the rules, who knows maybe i already have a good solution..

Stone Age is a step up from Carcassonne. Give it a try and see if it's worth buying.

Then if you want a further step up from Stone Age, Le Havre is a series of simple steps and simple decisions, but the growing number of options builds a lot of depth and complexity as you play. Most of the cards show only symbols and numbers, but some have a bit of writing that one person may need to translate for the group. It is best with 2-3 players.
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Endeavor and Tobago and Ad Astra
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Re: good 2-3 players, easy to learn, complex to masterH
Stone Age if you have two or more.

Hive if you only have two.
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I agree with towncrier that König von Siam is the description of what you are looking for. In fact, I thought of it when I read the thread title. In King of Siam, each player is manipulating the cubes (cubes represent different factions) on the board in order to have the most cubes in their supply of the faction that has dominated the most regions. The catch is that during the course of the game, each player can only take eight actions represented by eight cards. It's fairly simple to understand what these cards do, but figuring out how to play them to your advantage is not easy.

I also agree with Mrs. Mystery Bob that Hansa Teutonica would fit your criteria. It is complex and rich, but the mechanics are fairly simple to understand.

Edit: to add a letter I was missing
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revengeisnotjustice wrote:
... König von Siam is the description of what you are looking for.


Best 2, 3 and 4 player game that I own, as far as being near perfectly scalable. It's quite simple, just beware of the potential tie-breaking conditions as they change depending on the eventual winning condition and the number of players.

I'd also recommend Tigris & Euphrates. It may look or even sound complex, but it really extremely simple; just remember that you're not a colour but instead you are a symbol... keep on drilling that into your brain and you'll do fine. And although this game says '3-4 players' it plays remarkably well with 2-players.

I'd also concure with the recommendation for The End of the Triumvirate. Simple rules, but near infinite gameplay. However, it really shines best with 3 players not 2.

If you're looking for a really simple 2-4 player game where 3 is the optimal number I'd further recommend The Bottle Imp. It's a trick-taking card game but probably the best I've seen of its ilk. There are so many different and layered strategies in this game that my gaming group still uses this as a 3-4 player warm-up (300 pts. - about 10 hands - 45 minutes) before the main course of a 5-6 player games night.
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Maksimov wrote:
towncrier wrote:


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AGREE!
Taluva also!
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