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Subject: My first and possibly last game of Diplomacy. rss

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Sicaria Occaeco
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I really wanted to like this game. I read about it and its infamy and it sounded like such a great game. I read up on the rules and how to play and found it very simplistic and yet full of deep strategy, similar to chess. This means it would be easy to teach and pick up on. So I finally got the game and started to set it up.

One problem our group has with the game is the long play time. So instead of playing a long full session I setup a PBEM game online. We still talk & conspire face to face, which is a great part of the game, but submit all orders by email before our predetermined deadline. We do about 3 moves a week. On our regular gaming sessions I pull out the board and layout the current situation. Instead of playing filler games waiting for the rest to show up we end up splitting up and talking about allegiances, moves, etc..

I finally played this infamous game and I decided that I love it. The backstabbing, the eavesdropping, the strategy, the negotiation, I just love it all. This game is the most tense strategic game I have ever played. It's a rollercoaster of emotions and adjusting to constant changing situations.

So what's wrong with this game? Nothing, except when I play I can't sleep a wink. I lay there in bed and I can't turn my mind off. It's too tense. I think I'll continue to run the PBEM for those in my group who want to but I think I'm going to stay out of it. I'll probably stick to the occasional full session or maybe even a game that only goes in two sessions across two weekends. I love it but I need my sleep.

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Do you know what the word "infamy" means?
 
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Nice story Sicaria

I've looked, and then again looked away from this games so many times now ... your post makes it sound like a whole lot of fun indeed!

Is it really that good?
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I really need to play this it looks and sounds like a game I would love. I have the latest AH game but it looks like garbage. I really wish I would of bought the Hasbro edition back when I had the chance.
 
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DarkS0uL wrote:
Nice story Sicaria

I've looked, and then again looked away from this games so many times now ... your post makes it sound like a whole lot of fun indeed!

Is it really that good?


It really is that good .... if you have the personality to play. In my experience Diplomacy is the most polarising game on the planet. I think 99 percent of people will play and understand its brilliance and how good it could be. Unfortunately I would estimate only 1 in ten would have the personality type and strength of personal and emotional control to enjoy playing.

IMO this is the single best game design I have seen, but the way it plays out is quite different depending on the persoanlity.
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citylife wrote:
DarkS0uL wrote:
Nice story Sicaria

I've looked, and then again looked away from this games so many times now ... your post makes it sound like a whole lot of fun indeed!

Is it really that good?


It really is that good .... if you have the personality to play. In my experience Diplomacy is the most polarising game on the planet. I think 99 percent of people will play and understand its brilliance and how good it could be. Unfortunately I would estimate only 1 in ten would have the personality type and strength of personal and emotional control to enjoy playing.

IMO this is the single best game design I have seen, but the way it plays out is quite different depending on the persoanlity.


If you have immature friends that remember how you shipped a cube from "their" city in any rail game, took that one territory from "them" before they could take it, etc. etc. DO NOT PLAY DIPLOMACY WITH THEM UNLESS YOU NEVER WANT TO PLAY GAMES WITH THEM AGAIN.

The results from Diplomacy are not RANDOM, but planned out to screw your neighbor at the worst time...

YOU ARE WARNED...Immature players need not apply.
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Agreed. Only play with adults. Real adults. That leaves most of my friends out of it. Anybody who will get slightly pissy about being cockblocked in a game will certainly go whining home to mommy when they are stabbed. People who cannot take this genius game need to admit it like the OP and bow out, not denigrate it because they don't have the stones.

I crowed about this to my Brooklyn group four years ago, so we set up a PBeM game and played. After the first year, you would not believe the screaming and hair-pulling. Sober gaming gentlemen who shake hands immediately after losing other games ranted and raved about how "chaotic" and "unfair" it was. Crazy!

But even I admit that I need to play the game when I have time, a clear head, and sleep. AND I can't play games back-to-back...I need to put some months in between stabs. devil

Brilliant, brilliant game, but ADULTS ONLY!!!
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Sicaria Occaeco
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People who cannot take this genius game need to admit it like the OP and bow out, not denigrate it because they don't have the stones.


I think you misread what I was saying. The only thing stopping me from playing future PBEM games is a lack of sleep. This is due to so much strategy and tenseness from the game but that's also what I love about it.

It really does depend on the players. You have to go into it expecting to get punched in the nuts and kicked while you're down. It's a lot of fun to play with the right players.
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Barticus88 wrote:
Do you know what the word "infamy" means?


In this case, it seems he has a pretty good grasp of it to me. God, how I love this wicked game.
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Ha ha! Glad you had such a great experience!

Now, try it face-to-face and you're really in for it! Imagine all that stress and anxiety compressed into six straight hours.
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Sicaria wrote:
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People who cannot take this genius game need to admit it like the OP and bow out, not denigrate it because they don't have the stones.


I think you misread what I was saying. The only thing stopping me from playing future PBEM games is a lack of sleep. This is due to so much strategy and tenseness from the game but that's also what I love about it.

It really does depend on the players. You have to go into it expecting to get punched in the nuts and kicked while you're down. It's a lot of fun to play with the right players.


No, I GOT what you were saying, and I admitted that as a Dip fanatic even I can't take the game all the time. I've been invited to quite a few games that I just couldn't join due to recent Dip fatique.

I totally get you, brother. Now, if you'd just move A Tyr-->Mun, we could really get something going!
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Barticus88 wrote:
Do you know what the word "infamy" means?


Does it mean you'll pull your fleets out of the Mediterranean?
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Every true briton knows infamy:
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Barticus88 wrote:
Do you know what the word "infamy" means?


Dusty Bottoms: What does that mean, in-famous?

Ned Nederlander: Oh, Dusty. In-famous is when you're MORE than famous. This man El Guapo, he's not just famous, he's IN-famous.

Lucky Day: 100,000 pesos to perform with this El Guapo, who's probably the biggest actor to come out of Mexico!
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Diplomacy is FANTASTIC. The scheming and strategizing is the best.

However, for all its highs, when you do poorly the lows are reealllly low. I tend to get pretty upset when things are going badly. I don't get mad at other players, but I get mad at myself and the losses stick with me.
 
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