Let me tell you a short story about me and Heroscape.
I bought the original Masterset years ago (since I got the original print set with the "old" water tiles, it was likely 2004), because even then I realized how a bargain this set was, even if I was unsure back then what I was going to do with the set.
As it turned out, I never played it, my attention was turned away by other games, mainly Star Wars Miniatures, since I´m a huge Star Wars fan and I don´t regret getting literally hundreds of Star Wars minis.
But since I decided a while ago to buy none of the newer Star Wars sets and it´s also comming to a close, I was interested in something else of this type.
My thoughts turned to D&D Miniatures, which uses a roughly similar system to Star Wars.
I was hoping to get into this for somewhat cheaper than the original prices when buying older sets, but they are either unavailable or still expensive.
But then I discovered that there is now a Heroscape D&D set out.
Since I already got one Heroscape set, this swayed me over and I bought "Battle for the Underdark".
I still haven´t played a single game of Heroscape, but reading the intuitive, simple rules and having fun just playing around with the terrain and figures I think this might soon change.
I will also likely end up buying more stuff, all those nice pictures on the Geek create envy.
So, what can you recommend in terms of most "bang for the buck" and in general?
I would think the last Masterset I´m missing "Swarm of the Marro" would be a good deal, although some people mentioned it isn´t as much a bargain as the first set.
Also, there seem to be some quite big price differences, I thought the "Thaelenk Tundra" pack looked beautiful and I love snow/ice settings, but it seems it´s more expensive (50 Euros) than "Swarm of the Marro" (40 Euros) despite containing less.
- Last edited Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:21 pm (Total Number of Edits: 2)
- Posted Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:58 pm
I had a similar start to Heroscape. I started collecting right from the beginning, but never got around to playing until the game was out for a good year or two.
What I would recommend is buy sets that have the most units you like and build up from there. Some of the sets are going to be more pricey than others as you have seen.
If you can aquire all the master sets that will give you a good variety of terrain and figures to play with, then build up with the expansions.
It is a great game so the more diversity you add to your collection, the more enjoyable it will be for you.
The only issue is that some of the older Waves, along with the Flag-bearers, the Lava Set, and the Tundra Set are all getting super hard to find (or if they are available, it's for super high prices). WotC/Hasbro had best start getting some more reprints out there if they want to keep this game's population base 1. Growing, and 2. Happy.
I love this game, though, it's just the right mix of strategy and luck (with luck playing perhaps a wee bit too much of a role for my liking but not so much that it's off-putting) and the miniatures look great. But even if those things weren't compelling enough, the terrain just really pushes it over the top. Such a great game.
Generally speaking, you should buy any Heroscape expansions you can find at retail price.
WotC has done some small print runs of older waves lately. Waves will come and go, so you'll have to be patient. I have played Heroscape for 2 years now and is mainly missing the commons from wave 4. I did, however, pay a higher price for the Banner Bearers and Volcarren Wasteland. That should give you an idea of the timeframe/cost.
Remember, common units are most often played in multiples. So I would recommend buying 2 of every common unit pack. Some players use the cheapers units in groups of 4 or 5. But until you find your playing style, I would not recommend getting more than 3 of any kind - you'll risk the rest will end up collecting dust!
Since the D&D version is what drew you in, I suggest you keep an eye out for the next expansion, arriving late March. That wave, and the one following it, will be pure D&D. Previews so far look awesome!
In regards to Swarm of the Marro. I would definately recommend you buy it. I find it to be the weaker of the 3 Master Sets, but it includes a lot of cool terrain. Some of the units are also regarded as being among some of the best currently available in the game, if you are a competitive player.
I personally find the Fortress Expansion to be the weakest expansion, so far. It looks nice on the battlefield, but it is difficult to make balanced scenarios. It favors ranged units, and they are already powerful!
Don't forget to check out the news and forum at www.heroscapers.com
Search the forums before asking questions though, as double postings are not looked at too kind, on that site!
However, you can always use the following link to ask any questions about the rules:
You might also find particular interest in these customs, since you got a lot of Star Wars miniatures:
Hope that helps.
And good gaming, Heroscape is tons of fun.
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That is a good decision, to go with Heroscape. The game is simple and fun, and the terrain is unique amongst all gaming. I started collecting Heroscape when wave 3 came out, when the previous stuff was still plentiful, and have managed to collect every bit of it since then including multiples of all terrain and commons (I'm not alone in this, if you check out Heroscapers you will find a huge number of similar Heroscape gamers.)
Now, it will be hard to find everything, but I would recommend grabbing affordable sets when you can find them. Creating a multitude of different armies gives the game a limitless replayability.
dbc gives some great advice there. Get SotM- it's not quite the same value as the first master set, but it's still a better value than most games. Also, I'm sure it's a bit different for those of you in Europe, but by what you can for reasonable prices when it's available.
Keep in mind, there is a difference between what you NEED and what you WANT.
I would say that the Road to the Forgotten Forest is key terrain set - it really adds a lot of aesthetics to your maps. The Jungle set is also nice for making neat looking maps - especially in conjunction with the Swarm of the Maro set. If you like castles, then the castle set is very nice - but castle battles are quite a bit different, so I think I would focus on more figures vice the castle.
The Tundra and Volcano sets are OK. But currently more expensive than they are worth. (Easy for me to say, I have three of each :-) )
For figures, that is really up to you. As others have said, read Heroscapers.com - there is lots of advice there on the various figures, so you can decide what you need. Note that having multiple commons really adds another level to the game. Some don't like this. But, I find it makes for very neat strategies.