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Dave Z.
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Do most "wargamers" play science fiction and/or fantasy wargames as well as historical, or are most wargamers strictly into recreating historical battles and such?
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If you are a wargamer, do you play...
...mostly scifi or fantasy wargames?
...mostly historical wargames?
      88 answers
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I would love to see more Sci-fi stuff!
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Hungadunga wrote:
Poll
If you are a wargamer, do you play...
...mostly scifi or fantasy wargames?
...mostly historical wargames?
      88 answers
Poll created by Hungadunga


I don't think I want this poll here unless you add a third option "Plays both historical and sci-fi/fantasy wargames." Can you change it please?
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While I consider myself a wargamer, I do own Star Fleet Battles and love to play it as well as any wargame I own.
 
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I agree. I cut my teeth on Kingmaker and Star Fleet Battles. If you take a game like Federation & Empire, it's just like a bunch of historical war games: CRTs, hexes, managing units of various offensive, defensive, and movement capabilities, managing supply lines, and trying to take objectives.
 
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ruleroftheuniverse wrote:
Can you change it please?

That's why I used the word "mostly".

That way no one can sit on the fence!
 
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Hungadunga wrote:
Poll
If you are a wargamer, do you play...
...mostly scifi or fantasy wargames?
...mostly historical wargames?
      88 answers
Poll created by Hungadunga


When you consider what percentage of wargames overall have sci-fi or fantasy themes, this does seem to be a badly worded poll. The OP wants to know the level of openness to non-real-world settings. The poll asks instead which kind you spend more time playing. Lots of gamers who are completely open to fantasy and sci-fi themes are still going to end up having to say that they spend a lot more time on historical games--because there are lot more historical games out there.
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I love to play Sci-Fi wargames if they are available, but I had to put down mostly plays historical, because when I play wargames, I mostly play historical ones (which to my knowledge, an overwhelming amount of wargames are historical in comparison to sci-fi).
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I'm not a big wargame player but have started playing Warhammer 40K.

Personally I'm quite uncomfortable with recreating real battles where millions of people actually died. I bailed out of a WWII RPG recently too. I don't watch war films for true life dramas either.
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Hungadunga wrote:
Poll
If you are a wargamer, do you play...
...mostly scifi or fantasy wargames?
...mostly historical wargames?
      88 answers
Poll created by Hungadunga


How about a 3rd option: both equally?

Edit: oops, should read thread further before I reply! Now where's that coffee I so much need???
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Fortuna wrote:

When you consider what percentage of wargames overall have sci-fi or fantasy themes, this does seem to be a badly worded poll. The OP wants to know the level of openness to non-real-world settings. The poll asks instead which kind you spend more time playing. Lots of gamers who are completely open to fantasy and sci-fi themes are still going to end up having to say that they spend a lot more time on historical games--because there are lot more historical games out there.


I agree. While Science Fiction is my preferred genre, when it comes to wargames, there are pretty few to choose from.

In the end, I think I'm playing about the same for both fictional and historical, thanks to my gf enjoying Wizard Kings and the recent release of Struggle for the Galactic Empire although the just released Frontline: D-Day may change the balance

Edit: I forgot about the OP I think there used to be more openness to fictional wargames years ago when serious Science Fiction / Fantasy wargames were much more common. Just look at the catalog of SPI and AH games in the late 70s and early 80s with games like Freedom in the Galaxy, Starship Troopers and many others, including some interesting smaller ones released in SPI's Ares magazine.

Now it seems wargaming has mostly moved away from non-historical settings and it's hard to find wargame publishers that do both (DVG, Decision Games and Columbia come to mind, and in all three cases the non-historical games are a minority).

Still, I hope things change, and we can start seeing more interesting simulations in these genres. Struggle was a big step in the right direction....

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I play wargames for the history, so I am one of those with absolutely no interest in sci-fi or fantasy wargames.
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Most whom I know seem open to sf/fantasy, but in practice play more historical (due to interest in the history and/or the higher availability of interesting historical wargames).
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Hungadunga wrote:
Poll
If you are a wargamer, do you play...
...mostly scifi or fantasy wargames?
...mostly historical wargames?
      88 answers
Poll created by Hungadunga


This poll doesn't seem to reflect the OP's question.


I play both, but as the historical variety is more prevalent, games based on historical events are in the majority. I would like to see more options as there are no modern analogs to games like Imperium.
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Upon rereading the OP, maybe the poll should look like this:

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As far as wargames go...
I only play historical wargames (including "whatif" historical games)
I play historical and scifi/fantasy wargames
I only play scifi/fantasy wargames
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Hungadunga wrote:
Upon rereading the OP, maybe the poll should look like this:

Poll
As far as wargames go...
I only play historical wargames (including "whatif" historical games)
I play historical and scifi/fantasy wargames
I only play scifi/fantasy wargames
      19 answers
Poll created by Hungadunga


Yeah, that looks better.
 
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As long as there's shooting/blasting/hacking/bombing/melee-ing going on, I don't care about the genre or era.
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I'm simply not interested in sci-fi. So I don't play sci-fi games. And if someboy talks me into trying one I always regret it because I find it absolutely dull - regardless of how good the game might be as a game. Sorry!.
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Same is true for any kind of fantasy stuff.
 
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Take a game like Revolt on Antares. It involves combat on another planet with power infantry, jets, and tanks. However, it also involves magical artifacts.

City States of Arklyrell is combat on another planet with mythical creatures (ice worms, Roks -- kind of like Pteredactyls) and such.

Are these game war games because they involve CRTs, hexes, movement, and conflict. Are they fantasy because they both involve magical artifacts? Is City States a fantasy game because it involves mythical creatures?

The lines blur -- especially in mini games, such as Saga (the TSR pocket game), Cerberus: The Proxima Centauri Campaign, Hot Spot, Viking Gods, Moon Base Clavius, and The Warriors of Batak, to name a few.
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airjudden wrote:
The lines blur

Indeed; a strict historical anti-fantasy/SF purist would have to say that the recent GMT game Hellenes: Campaigns of the Peloponnesian War is not a real wargame since it has sacrifices to the gods with concrete results.
 
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