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1In the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon called Niger, Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen (who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch) and Saul. 2While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." 3So after they had fasted and prayed, they placed their hands on them and sent them off.

4The two of them, sent on their way by the Holy Spirit, went down to Seleucia and sailed from there to Cyprus. 5When they arrived at Salamis, they proclaimed the word of God in the Jewish synagogues. John was with them as their helper.

6They traveled through the whole island until they came to Paphos. There they met a Jewish sorcerer and false prophet named Bar-Jesus, 7who was an attendant of the proconsul, Sergius Paulus. The proconsul, an intelligent man, sent for Barnabas and Saul because he wanted to hear the word of God. 8But Elymas the sorcerer (for that is what his name means) opposed them and tried to turn the proconsul from the faith. 9Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight at Elymas and said, 10"You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord? 11Now the hand of the Lord is against you. You are going to be blind, and for a time you will be unable to see the light of the sun."

Immediately mist and darkness came over him, and he groped about, seeking someone to lead him by the hand. 12When the proconsul saw what had happened, he believed, for he was amazed at the teaching about the Lord.

13From Paphos, Paul and his companions sailed to Perga in Pamphylia, where John left them to return to Jerusalem. 14From Perga they went on to Pisidian Antioch. On the Sabbath they entered the synagogue and sat down. 15After the reading from the Law and the Prophets, the synagogue rulers sent word to them, saying, "Brothers, if you have a message of encouragement for the people, please speak."

16Standing up, Paul motioned with his hand and said: "Men of Israel and you Gentiles who worship God, listen to me! 17The God of the people of Israel chose our fathers; he made the people prosper during their stay in Egypt, with mighty power he led them out of that country, 18he endured their conduct for about forty years in the desert, 19he overthrew seven nations in Canaan and gave their land to his people as their inheritance. 20All this took about 450 years.

"After this, God gave them judges until the time of Samuel the prophet. 21Then the people asked for a king, and he gave them Saul son of Kish, of the tribe of Benjamin, who ruled forty years. 22After removing Saul, he made David their king. He testified concerning him: 'I have found David son of Jesse a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do.'

23"From this man's descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised. 24Before the coming of Jesus, John preached repentance and baptism to all the people of Israel. 25As John was completing his work, he said: 'Who do you think I am? I am not that one. No, but he is coming after me, whose sandals I am not worthy to untie.'

26"Brothers, children of Abraham, and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent. 27The people of Jerusalem and their rulers did not recognize Jesus, yet in condemning him they fulfilled the words of the prophets that are read every Sabbath. 28Though they found no proper ground for a death sentence, they asked Pilate to have him executed. 29When they had carried out all that was written about him, they took him down from the tree and laid him in a tomb. 30But God raised him from the dead, 31and for many days he was seen by those who had traveled with him from Galilee to Jerusalem. They are now his witnesses to our people.

32"We tell you the good news: What God promised our fathers 33he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm:
" 'You are my Son;
today I have become your Father.' 34The fact that God raised him from the dead, never to decay, is stated in these words:
" 'I will give you the holy and sure blessings promised to David.' 35So it is stated elsewhere:
" 'You will not let your Holy One see decay.'

36"For when David had served God's purpose in his own generation, he fell asleep; he was buried with his fathers and his body decayed. 37But the one whom God raised from the dead did not see decay.

38"Therefore, my brothers, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. 39Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses. 40Take care that what the prophets have said does not happen to you:
41" 'Look, you scoffers,
wonder and perish,
for I am going to do something in your days
that you would never believe,
even if someone told you.'"

42As Paul and Barnabas were leaving the synagogue, the people invited them to speak further about these things on the next Sabbath. 43When the congregation was dismissed, many of the Jews and devout converts to Judaism followed Paul and Barnabas, who talked with them and urged them to continue in the grace of God.

44On the next Sabbath almost the whole city gathered to hear the word of the Lord. 45When the Jews saw the crowds, they were filled with jealousy and talked abusively against what Paul was saying.

46Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: "We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles. 47For this is what the Lord has commanded us:
" 'I have made you a light for the Gentiles,
that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.'"

48When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed.

49The word of the Lord spread through the whole region. 50But the Jews incited the God-fearing women of high standing and the leading men of the city. They stirred up persecution against Paul and Barnabas, and expelled them from their region. 51So they shook the dust from their feet in protest against them and went to Iconium. 52And the disciples were filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit.
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Simeon called Niger


Again with the nicknames... at least its polysyllabic this time.

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went down to Seleucia and sailed from there to Cyprus.


Its interesting that this detail was of interest to the writer. I mean... Seleucia was the main port of Antioch - how else would they get there?

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here they met a Jewish sorcerer and false prophet named Bar-Jesus,


Bar has a meaning - his name is Son of Jesus. Cute.

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But Elymas the sorcerer (for that is what his name means)


Uh... what? We just found out his name was Son of Jesus.

Maybe Luke is trying to reconcile two conflicting stories here, and this is the messy result?

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9Then Saul, who was also called Paul,


I hate you Luke. You are a bad historian/writer. BAD BAD BAD. You don't just slip that in the middle of an unrelated story.

If I could wring someones neck through time and space, I would do so now. I am crushing your head with my fingers - in my mind.

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10"You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! ... You are going to be blind, and for a time you will be unable to see the light of the sun."


Cool trick Saul. Mean, but cool. I mean, based off your word alone your story of the miraculous resurrection, etc is a pile of dung - so just because he opposes you doesn't mean he's bad. Right?

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13From Paphos, Paul and his companions sailed to Perga in Pamphylia, where John left them to return to Jerusalem. 14From Perga they went on to Pisidian Antioch.


Why are we calling you Paul? Oh thats right, because after reading about your for half a dozen chapters we find out you are also called Paul. Well F- that. I am calling you Saul until Luke explains why I shouldn't!

Anyway, Luke really likes giving you details on travel arrangements. They went to south west Anatolia, and John split off. They ended up in Pisidian Antioch overnight.

They stopped in Perga. Wonderful. Well guess what? NO ONE CARES LUKE! Bad historian - BAD!
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16Standing up, Paul motioned with his hand and said: "Men of Israel and you Gentiles who worship God, listen to me!


Well I guess SAUL answers my Centurion question for me - their were gentiles who were um... Jew-curious... and went to synagogues.

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The God of the people of Israel chose our fathers; he made the people prosper


Uh... translator... shouldn't He be capitalized when we talk about the Lord our God, King of the universe, Shield of Abraham, etc, etc?
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Though they found no proper ground for a death sentence, they asked Pilate to have him executed.


I'm pretty sure being a false prophet is grounds enough.

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32"We tell you the good news: What God promised our fathers 33he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus.


Is it bad that I started giggling thinking about Zombie Jesus whenever I hear he was raised up?

Anyway... Whew! Glad to see that God's promise of a Savior to bring an end to Roman oppression, universal worship of God, peace throughout the world, etc, etc have been fulfilled.

I was worried I wouldn't see that in my lifetime. But here I found out we achieved that two thousand years ago! Oh wait...

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45When the Jews saw the crowds, they were filled with jealousy and talked abusively against what Paul was saying.


Right. Because SAUL was saying filthy abominations such as promoting idolatry, a corporal God, etc.

Its commendable that they remembered Deuteronomy 13 and its warnings about following false prophets.

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Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles.


Translation: Since we can't trick anyone who knows anything about Judaism into following us, we'll see if we can sucker some Romans.
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Its my understanding that Saul's name was changed to Paul because that is his name in latin and therefore shows that his emphasis from then on will be to the gentiles and not to the hebrews. I could be wrong though. The change comes at the time when his focus changes on who he is preaching to.
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Oh thats understandable, and was my general understanding too.

But seeing how Luke/Acts are supposed to be a complete history unto itself, its pretty lousy of the author to just slip that into the middle of some unrelated story.
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dtolman wrote:

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Though they found no proper ground for a death sentence, they asked Pilate to have him executed.


I'm pretty sure being a false prophet is grounds enough.

It's probably not enough for Roman law.
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Latria wrote:
dtolman wrote:

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Though they found no proper ground for a death sentence, they asked Pilate to have him executed.


I'm pretty sure being a false prophet is grounds enough.

It's probably not enough for Roman law.


Absolutely right - thats where declaring yourself to be the Anointed King of Israel - gets you killed.
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That's no sorcerer, that's Magneto!
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9Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight at Elymas and said, 10"You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?


Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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9Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight at Elymas and said, 10"You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?


Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.


You know, if you like anti-Paul theories, how about this one (its complete bullshit but popped into my head reading about false flag attacks and general 9/11 craziness).

Bar-Jesus REALLY is the Son of Jesus. Saul is a minion of Satan sent to corrupt the pure church of goodness created by Jesus. He uses his position in the Sanhedrin to kill Jesus's most loyal or charismatic disciples - then confronts and blinds Jesus's chief disciple - Jesus's very own son - with his Satanic powers!

His mission complete - and Gods best hope of creating a truly Holy Roman Empire destroyed, Satan changes Sauls name to Paul, and he goes forth to bring Satan's corrupt church into being on Earth - all the while preaching in Jesus's name.

Its a good yarn. Complete bullshit, but I bet you could get some Dan Brownish type novel out if it, don't ya think? Just needs a catchy title...
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dtolman wrote:
I bet you could get some Dan Brownish type novel out if it, don't ya think? Just needs a catchy title...


Why? Dan Brown's novels don't have catchy titles and they still sell pretty well.
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dtolman wrote:

You know, if you like anti-Paul theories, how about this one (its complete bullshit but popped into my head reading about false flag attacks and general 9/11 craziness).

Bar-Jesus REALLY is the Son of Jesus. Saul is a minion of Satan sent to corrupt the pure church of goodness created by Jesus. He uses his position in the Sanhedrin to kill Jesus's most loyal or charismatic disciples - then confronts and blinds Jesus's chief disciple - Jesus's very own son - with his Satanic powers!

His mission complete - and Gods best hope of creating a truly Holy Roman Empire destroyed, Satan changes Sauls name to Paul, and he goes forth to bring Satan's corrupt church into being on Earth - all the while preaching in Jesus's name.

Its a good yarn. Complete bullshit, but I bet you could get some Dan Brownish type novel out if it, don't ya think? Just needs a catchy title...


I can dig it! Saul doesn't even have to knowingly be a minion. It could be a nice cruel plot twist for Saul to have the truth revealed to him long after he has destroyed Jesus's work and the church has unstoppable momentum on Saul/Satan's path and then ,resigned in defeat and drunk on power, he continues on his masters bidding.
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You're right. I have no idea why the novel exploded like that.

I'll add a monk with a congenital birth defect, a secretive church order, and some free publicity from groups decrying my novels half assed "historical" plot.
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I can dig it! Saul doesn't even have to knowingly be a minion. It could be a nice cruel plot twist for Saul to have the truth revealed to him long after he has destroyed Jesus's work and the church has unstoppable momentum on Saul/Satan's path and then ,resigned in defeat and drunk on power, he continues on his masters bidding.


That cool - but you lose the whole Saul/Paul transition thing. Changing names when you've ascended to new heights of awesome (Abram/Abraham, Anakin/Darth Vader, popes, etc) is a time tested literary device.

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