True Blue Jon
1After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 2Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3"Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God." 4Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.
5From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,
from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,
from the tribe of Gad 12,000,
6from the tribe of Asher 12,000,
from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,
from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,
7from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,
from the tribe of Levi 12,000,
from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
8from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,
from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,
from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.
9After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10And they cried out in a loud voice:
"Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb." 11All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12saying:
Praise and glory
and wisdom and thanks and honor
and power and strength
be to our God for ever and ever.
13Then one of the elders asked me, "These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?"
14I answered, "Sir, you know."
And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15Therefore,
"they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them.
16Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat upon them,
nor any scorching heat.
17For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd;
he will lead them to springs of living water.
And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes."
After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.
Wow - it takes 4 angels to stop atmospheric circulation! I guess that makes sense - you have to stop heat differentials, pressure differentials, the Earths rotation, etc. Must be a big job, even for a servant of God.
Only 12,000 from each tribe? Gee, do they get to go if they reject Jesus still?
And a whole bunch of people get to go to heaven. Whew. The End?
Born To Lose, Live To Win
I wonder if the different tribes get different UPC codes on their foreheads, or is that just for Satan's minion's?
just some links for those interested in Qumran, the Dead Sea Scrolls and perhaps Barbara Theiring type interpretations.
The 2009 kinda got me hoping that there was no way that she was right. But then the 2010 leaves the door very open at least in terms of Qumran.
is the sense that Theiring makes of Revelation 7:1-5. She also includes the (original?) Greek and various translations of it.
Date and Place: Wednesday September 1, 51 AD. Rome
7:1. John Mark obtained permission to build a new monastery SW of Rome. Matthew Annas welcomed him in the cathedral-house.
Simon Magus, Thomas Herod and Bernice were not acceptable to the Christian ministry in Rome.
7:2 Timothy Herod on his 15th birthday began his Roman education, staying in Agrippa’s house under the direction of Matthew Annas.
7:3 Timothy offered his opinion in favor of celibacy to Matthew Annas. He believed that Barnabas should wear a phylactery with the Christian T sign at its left side. He rejected Thomas and Bernice.
7:4. The numbers of Christian monastics were now assessed at 144,000, 12,000 in each of 12 provinces. The 12 provinces were all equal under Christian administration. This was the signal to start building the new Christian monastery on the land SW of Rome.
7:5 The detail of the new monastery derived from the Temple Scroll was now presented. Of its 4 walls, most had the same order of tribes - ascetic orders as in the Temple Scroll, showing that Revelation was derived from the Temple Scroll. Two pairs were exchanged with each other. The listing began with the west wall, not, the east, as Rome in the west was now the center of the world.
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