This is a re-enactment of the Battle of Mantinea 418 BC during the Nicean Peace. Called the largest battle of Hoplites, it may also have been the last.
After that battle, numbers increased steadily with non hoplites beefing up the armies.
Face to face
8000 hoplites on the Argives side supported by Athens
9000 hoplites from Sparta
Each Army has put its better troops on the right:
Argos and Allies from right to left
- 2000 Mantineans and Arkadians hoplites very motivated as they fight on their land
- 1000 Elite Argive Hoplites
- 4000 Argive hoplites
- 1000 Atheneans hoplites
Athenean cavalry to the left with some skirmishers in front
Sparta and Allies from left to right
- First the Skiritai elite light infantry on far left
- 1000 freed Helots (including Brasidus Helots) equipped as Hoplites
- 6000 Spartan Hoplites
- 2000 Tegeans and Arkadians hoplites
Spartan cavalry was on both sides and some skirmishers were sent out.
Very succesful start from Spartan cavalry which maims the Mantineans (arcadian hoplites reduced from 2 to 1)
Spartan hoplites are not impressed by Athenean slingers and archers.
Argos Elite reaction
Though the Argives are defending, only the Elite hoplites is B category and can fight now, before the Spartan. They give no quarter to their enemies and the Tegeans are reduced from 2 to 1.
The Spartan Assault
From right to left the Spartan now assault the Argive line
6: the skirmisher are routed
1: the last big Argive hoplite unit is reduced from 2 to 1
2: the Athenean cavalry disbands
6: the Athenean hoplites rout
2: Argive hoplites are slaughtered
Even the Helotes equipped as Hoplites rout an Argive unit
No result for the Skiritai to the left
The Mantinean right fails its assault and is slaughtered by Spartan Cavalry !
The only remaining hoplite on the Argive side are the Mantinean (C-class) but they fail their assault on the Skiritai on Spartan left.
End of round, the Argive remaining right decides to retreat
The Spartan cavalry can harass the retreating troops.
Mantineans are slaughtered by the Spartan cavalry (1 is a kill)
Only the Argos Elite Hoplite survive !
But was it not planned from the beginning that these oligarchic warriors from Argos whose families supported Spartan views should leave the field unharmed ?
Prestige +1 for Sparta.
So close to history, no ?
- Last edited Sat Aug 7, 2010 12:12 am (Total Number of Edits: 10)
- Posted Fri Aug 6, 2010 10:47 pm
Oups I played too quickly
Some comments/changes on this historical battle that I would recommend for tactical training
- Add one step of Argive standard hoplite on initial set up compared to picture (turn the 1-step standard Argos hoplite to 2-step) It will make 8000 hoplites.
- I decided not to play the skirmishers on Spartan side (they are part of the 1-step light Skiritai on the left). So just leave the additionnal light unit in the initial picture away.
- The Tegeans hoplites were forgotten during my exemple of fight. Only C class on the Spartan side, they should have fought after the Mantineans (also C class Arcadeans) This could have only worsened the result for Argos.
- Last edited Sat Aug 7, 2010 12:16 am (Total Number of Edits: 8)
- Posted Fri Aug 6, 2010 11:35 pm
Mantinea What If ?
Of course Mantinea is a very one sided fight and Hellenes does not give another result than the historical one.
Try the battle again with the following what if assumptions:
- Elis may have added its 3000 Hoplites on the Argive side (add the 3-step Elis unit)
- Athens may have sent more troops, within the limits of not breaking the truce (add the 2-step Platea light unit)
- The 1000 Argos Elite fighting spirit is boosted by these reinforcements (they become 2-step)
Agis may have been fool enough to fight against a larger army than his as long as he thought the Spartan Hoplites could match the opposing hoplites.
Will it change the outcome ? It should be sufficient to give Argos the victory.
If not and you lose again with Argos, try it a last time adding a 2-step Attica hoplites, even if too many hoplites in front of them may have led the Spartans not to fight.
- Last edited Sat Aug 7, 2010 1:20 am (Total Number of Edits: 8)
- Posted Sat Aug 7, 2010 12:35 am