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David F
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Don't think I saw this covered in the rules.

More importantly, do you think it's better to have hidden or public money?

In my opinion, you can make more intelligent bids with public money (at the cost of longer turns), but I wonder if it'll degrade into an overly computational end-game dynamic (e.g. I bid something up to 9 since you only have 8 on the last turn, and leave you with 8 worthless cash which aren't even worth consolation VPs).
 
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In a few different game groups I've been in, if the rules don't specify we do the following:

If the game has paper money, we say it has to be "open" in the sense that your stack must be visible. But you don't have to count it for someone (or allow them to).

That's how I've played Neue Heimat.
 
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I play all games open money. Otherwise it gives advantage to those that simply memorize it all. I never see a reason not to play with open money.
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I almost always prefer to play open in any game that has hidden trackable information. This game is no exception, I have not seen this game suffer from it.
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We play it Cornjob's way. There are a few players in our group who are very slow with perfect information games; having one more piece of information to process just exacerbates the problem. On the other hand, I consider it a central feature of the game that a player who takes himself or herself down to, say, under 2 million Euros is really at the mercy of the other players. I think the stack thus needs to be public so that players can see (broadly) which players are financially weak or strong--and then punish the weak. devil
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shadow9d9 wrote:
I play all games open money. Otherwise it gives advantage to those that simply memorize it all. I never see a reason not to play with open money.


Why should this be bad? If you play a more complex game, this gives an advantage to players who can better think in an abstract way. At other games it make no difference how "intelligent" you are. All you need is dexterity,

I'm one of those player, that don't remember which cards are already played (lost cities) or who owns how many money. And if this makes me loose these games, who cares? The game can still give much fun.

If you delete all the things that gives an advantage to someone, it will be better to play Pachisi,
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Memorizing things != abstract thinking. Trying to remember everything is not particularly fun. Playing with open money lets you focus on actual strategic thinking.

But this is one of the old, classic debates of board gaming, and we can probably just agree to disagree and save lots of time.
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Great to hear people have opinions on this. But what does the designer say?
 
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