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I have a friend with whom I'd like to play an epic, and I mean epic, wargame. I'm looking for ones that don't have to be played in person (we'll both be off at different schools, but we talk every night, so something where there aren't interrupt mechanics, so we can essentially play by email would be good), and will take us a long time to play. We're both fans of games with complex rules, and are very patient in case turns take a long time to finish. We want something that can keep us busy for at least a couple months to a year.

(By the way, we are at colleges, so bonus points for something that's relatively cheap.)
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If you're interested in ancient history, then Carthage: the First Punic Warfits the bill. Very complex. Very long. Lots of politics, strategy, and historical flavour. And you can play remotely via Vassal.

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The campaign game for Vietnam 1965-1975 might fill the bill.
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Empires in Arms or Europa Universalis or Empires of the Middle Ages could fit the bill, but none are especially cheap.
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mi_de wrote:
Empires in Arms or Europa Universalis or Empires of the Middle Ages could fit the bill, but none are especially cheap.
I rate Empires in Arms a "10", but never with just 2 players.
World in Flames is worth considering (and it's in print).

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Hi LL,

I have three suggestions, of a lot of choice you can made, in the world of wargaming:

1) World in Flames - (All the WWII in a game!)

2) Guderian's Blitzkrieg II + Case Blue - (Operation Barbarossa in its final thrust to victory and the rest ...)

3) The Longest Day - (D-Day on a table!)

Unfortunately they are all not cheap.

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World in Flames looks pretty awesome. What we were basically planning on doing is each of us is going to get our own copy of the game, and we'll play by relaying our moves over Skype or something.
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WiF can be played via Vassal. 5th ed. module is here.

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Ozludo wrote:

WiF can be played via Vassal. 5th ed. module is here.

-R


The in-print version is WIF: Final Edition. Its vassal module is here: http://www.theletterj.net/

WIF live via Vassal plus Skype rocks.
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Oh my, there are some old ones for sure:

Fire in the East for instance. It must have 3,000 chits alone. The map is really 6 or 7 full size maps. There are 3 or 4 add ons to it. Eastern Front or Europe (with expansions) at the brigade level.

Pacific War by Victory Games. This one is a huge one that is just the Pacific theater. Easily over 100 hours with thousands of chits.

Advanced Third Reich and Empire of the Rising Sun linked together by AH. This one could get that big and take that long.


Of course, these are all old and long out of print. I cannot think of any American Civil War games that large or long. There are other WWII games already listed above that fit the bill.
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Another vote for Carthage: the First Punic War, from GMT. It's epic, the main scenario is long, the game is still in print (on GMT's special page for just $35), there's a nice Vassal module available, and is actively supported.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/13855/carthage-the-fi...
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Welcome to the BGG!

Unfortunately none of the titles I am listing are inexpensive but these are epic in game length if you play the full campaign!

War in the Pacific (second edition)
This Terrible Sound
Three Days of Gettysburg (third edition)
This Hallowed Ground another Gettysburg game
A Fearful Slaughter: The Battle of Shiloh regimental level treatment of Shiloh...you might be able to complete this in under 100 hours, but I doubt it.
Burma- reprinted by MMP in the last year or so, could be done in under 100 hours but I have not tried the full campaign yet.
The Battle for Normandy- a very detailed treatment of D-Day from GMT games
Baltic Gap- this one might be debatable if it would take 100 hours to complete, but still a very detailed and wonderful game.
Epic of the Peloponnesian War- not sure if the full campaign would take 100 hours or more, but it is a long game in my opinion.
Berlin: Red Victory combined with ATS: The Fuhrers Bunker – Berlin Red Victory will allow you to play the entire battle for Berlin at the squad level! Massive urban combat on an epic scale to say the least.
Bloody Omaha: D-Day 1944- another Advanced Tobruk System (ATS) game covering just Omaha beach at the squad level.

On affordability I will have to concur with the recommendation of Carthage: The First Punic War as being priced well. I purchased a copy from Troll and Toad online game store for $24.99 plus shipping.

You may also want to check out the computer version of many of these games that make a massive effort more manageable by being on a computer. It may also make playing some of the titles mentioned affordable. You can also play your opponent online. Here's the URL if you are interested;
http://www.vassalengine.org/

I wish the best of luck in your endeavor! Happy gaming!

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Sphere wrote:
The campaign game for Vietnam 1965-1975 might fill the bill.


It definitely would. However, I recommend playing some of the shorter scenarios first---if you don't, you'll get some turns in and realize that you've completely botched your decisions regarding the "macro" elements of the game.
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If you don't mind out-of-print super-long monster wargames (which won't be cheap, even if you can find them and large tables to play them on):

Unentschieden
Drang Nach Osten
War in the East
Streets of Stalingrad (the 1979 version)

If I can think of more, I'll add them as soon as I can.
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