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Chris Udziela
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Hello, all.

My father-in-law in Lebanese (and yes, the courtship of my beautiful laugh wife was like "My Big Fat Greek Wedding")
and he LOVES ancient history, the Romans, the Greeks, etc.

What is a good ancient boardgame, not too complex? I think also with more than just battles, dare I say politics? He said he would be interested in playing with me. Not because he's a gamer, but because he loves the subject matter.

Send me your suggestions...
 
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I would recommend either backgammon (played all throughout that area even today, or I would recommend Ur which is a bit simple but IMHO a fun game to play.
 
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A Few To Consider...
Sword of Rome by GMT.
Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage by Avalon Hill.
Peloponessian War by Victory Games.

The last two games are difficult (ie. expensive) to obtain, unfortunately.
 
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Hannibal is indeed a lot of fun, but it is hard to get a copy of. That said, it's one of my favorite games in my collection.
 
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Simple.
Hellas
 
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Perhaps he would like one of these top rated games?:

Attika
Through the Desert goldencamel
Capitol
Anthony and Cleopatra


Here are some more top rated games with themes he may like (some are wargames or OOP). The first number is the BGG ranking, the number at the end is the BGG score. (I'm assuming here he might be Muslim.)

2 Euphrat & Tigris 8.42532
17 Ra 7.89153
24 Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage 7.82832
40 Amun-Re 7.67635
80 Republic of Rome, The 7.49065
154 Ave Caesar 7.26249
158 Tales of the Arabian Nights 7.25571
164 Alhambra 7.24536
201 History of the World 7.13907
203 Medina 7.13402
230 Aladdin's Dragons 7.09428
254 Magna Grecia 7.05915
270 Antiquity 7.03571
277 Basari 7.02644
 
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If the primary appeal is going to be the THEME, I couldn't possibly endorse a game like Through the Desert, or E&T, in which the theme is a barely-pasted-on accessory to an essentially abstract game. You'll have more luck with one of the wargames mentioned.
Have you tried "The Ancients" and its successor? Accessible, even over-simplified, rules for lots of different campaigns throughout the ancient world. Possibly the best bang for your buck -- second-hand copies are all over the place.
 
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The event cards of Sword of Rome make this a good choice for you, however I wouldn't play it with just 2 players.
 
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On the lighter side, Magna Grecia may be another game to think about. He might find Quo Vadis (must be multiplayer) or Caesar & Clopatra (two player) to be a hoot as well. Hellas (already suggested) also sounds like a good bet.
 
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Another one!!!
Hey, Chris, *I* also have a Lebanese father-in-law, and I must admit I thought BFGW didn't nearly scratch the surface of what it's REALLY like to have an American/Arab courtship.

You are lucky that your FiL likes to play games of this sort. My FiL is banned from playing games as a result of being a sore loser 20 years ago.

I love Ancients games, and I would right away suggest Battle Line and Caesar and Cleopatra. Both light enough, but fun, and definitely have the correct feel.

Of course, Hannibal: Rome vs Carthage WOULD be best and most appropriatea, as the Phoenicians founded Carthage...

 
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History of the World covers the glory days of that part of the world! Maybe you could cajole your wife and MiL to play, too! meeple
 
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One more to add
Mare Nostrum - definitely need a full contingent of 5 though.
 
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Why not?
You could really go all out and try and get Empire of the Middle Ages. Not really ancient but full of content which he would love and if he gets into this then lets hope you like him cause it may take a while
 
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Oh, and for the future...
don't forget Hellas and Crusader Kings, two to-be-published block games from Columbia Games. Crusader Kings actually plays on the map of present day Syria, Lebanon, Israel and Egypt, so that should be comfortable for him!

At least you're out of the Bonjour Madame! and Quatorze rut with your family!
 
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Chris Udziela
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Just got back from work...Thanks for your suggestions. I will try some of these out.

I'm the sore loser Ask my wife about Cranium.
 
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Politics?
Quo Vadis is the best!
 
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Ancients game
Since marriage is for life, and your father in law sounds like a terrific guy, invest in the future of your relationship! Go forthwith to GMT's web site, click on the P500 section, and place a pledge for "Commands & Colors Ancients." It's a Richard Borg design in a similar vein to "Battle Cry and "Memoir '44" but with some nifty ancient twists. Game will feature multiple scenarios featuring Romans, Greeks, and Carthaginians with expansions promised down the road. Eminently playable, battles conclude in less than an hour, and no two games play alike. I played an early test version and had a ball. Don't miss it. Better yet, pledge for two--it'll get published sooner and you can keep one copy at the in-laws' house (they make great giftsDp.
 
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More ancients . . .
Chris, here's another one that will be out before "C&C Ancients"--the Eagle Games remake of "Conquest of the Empire." Larry Harris, the original designer, is very involved. This is promised in the first half of 2005. A big game, lovely components, several ways to play according to Glenn D. of Eagle Games. The game was originally part of the "Nova Game Series" (title: "VI Caesars"); later published by Milton Bradley in their "Gamemaster" series and now highly sought by collectors. The new version will correct the quirks and add considerably to the original design. Strategic level with some tactical battle flavor. Well worth a look when it comes.
 
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