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For either standard thickness, "premium" thickness, or whatever their equivalents are across manufacturers.... when they're all stacked and oriented the same way, the bottom side sticks up more than the top side. Is it b/c some of the sleeves are a bit too tight for some of the cards, and thus it causes some of those cards to bend very slightly, in which even if it's just one out of every several cards, it adds up into enough bulk to cause one side stick up more than the other?

Is it possible to sleeve your cards and not have this effect?
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I think it may be because of the manufacturing process involved in the making of the card sleeves. A sheet of plastic is folded and heat sealed, the fold on the bottom of the card sleeve is a tiny bit wider compared to the top of the card sleeve where it is just 2 sheets of plastic next to each other, not widened by the heat seal. So the tiny fraction adds up exponentially to made the deck lopsided. Yeah
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The seam turns the shape into something resembling the cross-section of an airplane wing. A solution would be a square seam instead of folded. However, this would greatly increase the cost of the sleeves, as a piece of folded or heat-sealed plastic is cheap cheap cheap. Sort of like the difference between the square spine of a magazine of over a hundred pages, versus a saddle stitch (stapled) magazine such as Time or Newsweek.

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It's not due to the cards being bent, but to the fact that there's a seam on one end, while an open slit on the other. The seam adds thickness, causing the bottom half to be thicker than the top.
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I don't have this problem with my sleeved cards. You might try using these card sleeves which is what I use. They're the best I've seen.

 
 
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Or you could use penny sleeves which just slide around and get sticky and dirty with a few uses. At least they don't sit lopsided.
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mrbeankc wrote:
I don't have this problem with my sleeved cards. You might try using these card sleeves which is what I use. They're the best I've seen.

 


Japanese sleeves, huh. I'm surprised you can get those, well, anywhere but...
 
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I use the KMC sleeves. I bulk imported several thousand from the US distributor Potomac Distribution.

They exhibit the lop-sided stacking tendency, though not to a great degree.

A bigger problem is that the added thickness of the sleeve makes the stack much taller than bare cards. Because the plastic is slippery, there is a tendency for the stack to fall over.

After a beer related incident this week, though, I am very happy to be using sleeves.
 
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Most of the time I have this problem after using brand new sleeves. This is usually due to static electricity build up. After shuffling and playing with the sleeves for awhile, this tends to go away.

Those clear kmc sleeves I also highly recommend, and they should be available to your flgs, as they are carried by the majors distributors.
 
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this annoys me as well. when playing summoner wars what I do is shuffle the decks and place them in dragon shield cases to pull the cards from. Its not so easy when it gets to the bottom of the pile though.

If anyone has any other suggestions I'd love to hear them. In my head I imagine those shufflers / boxes they use to pull cards from in casinos but not sure if those would fit various card sizes, be worth the purchase, work well with sleeved cars or even where to get them.
 
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mstachiw wrote:
this annoys me as well. when playing summoner wars what I do is shuffle the decks and place them in dragon shield cases to pull the cards from. Its not so easy when it gets to the bottom of the pile though.

If anyone has any other suggestions I'd love to hear them. In my head I imagine those shufflers / boxes they use to pull cards from in casinos but not sure if those would fit various card sizes, be worth the purchase, work well with sleeved cars or even where to get them.


Dealer Shoes. Has anyone played with these (esp with sleeved cards)?



Seeing that image I can totally see someone creating one of those custom Arkham Horror cases to include an incase shoe per deck.

 
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Another reason why I hate to play with sleeved cards, its not only that I can't shuffle them well but they fall over with a feather touch when stacked up and don't sit square. But some games force you to sleeve their cards because they idiotically put out expansions that have different card backs from the original.
 
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I actually have this problem with a set of fantasy flight sleeves I bought.

Surprisingly, the mayday or ultra pro sleeves I have don't do this.

I think I'll stick with MayDay sleeves, because of this, also because the quality of the FFG sleeves seems so good, that they easily slide all over the place.
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