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The text below gives first impressions of the Nuremberg Toy Fair 2005, as given by
http://www.poeppelkiste.de/messen/2005/nuernberg/index.htm

If you know German, please tell us English speakers what these results are saying. Pick just one or two of your favorite games, if it's too much work to translate all of it for us.

You can skip the Spieler (number of players) and Jahre (age of players) parts at the beginning, I think.


Louis XIV (Rüdiger Dorn, 2 - 4 Spieler, ab 12 Jahre)

Fazit: Louis XIV wurde, als sein Prototyp auf der Spiel '04 vorgestellt wurde, hochgelobt. Nun wird das Spiel für viele Spieler zugänglich sein und zeigen müssen, ob es die hohen Erwartungen erfüllt.


Palazzo (Reiner Knizia, 2 - 4 Spieler, ab 10 Jahre)

Fazit: Palazzo ist eine schnelles Versteigerungs- und Bauspiel. Seit langer Zeit klingt ein Versteigerungsspiel wieder interessant, weil hier eben nicht nur versteigert wird, sondern auch weitere Möglichkeiten existieren.


Schatten über Camelot (Bruno Cathala & Serge Laget, 3 - 7 Spieler, ab ? Jahre)

Fazit: Spiele in der Konstellation "Einer gegen Alle" erfreuen sich großer Beliebtheit wie Scotland Yard oder Der Herr der Ringe mit der Sauron-Erweiterung zeigen. Nun wird dieses Szenario in eine der größten Fantas-Plätze aller Zeiten versetzt und gleichzeitig mit einem verdeckt agierenden Gegenspieler kombiniert.


Zug um Zug Europa (Alan R. Moon, 2 - 5 Spieler, ab 8 Jahre)

Fazit: mit den neuen Regeln und dem "engeren" Spielplan erschient mir Zug um Zug noch interessanter, da vor allem die stupide "Ich-bau-nur-lange-Strecken"-Strategie entfällt.


Carcassonne -Burgfräulein und Drache (Klaus-Jürgen Wrede, 2 - 6 Spieler, ab 8 Jahre)

Fazit: Jetzt gibt es eine weitere Variationsmöglichkeit für Carcassonne. Ebenfalls werden Freunde eines lagen Carcassonne-Spiels sich freuen, weil es nun noch mehr Plättchen gibt.


Der Turmbau zu Babel (Reiner Knizia, 3 - 5, ab 10 Jahre)

Fazit: Dieses Spiel zeigt, dass eine hohe Interaktion auch ohne Versteigerung möglich ist. Auf beiden Seite, also sowohl der anbietende als auch die unterstützenden Spieler, haben reichlich taktische Möglichkeiten. Hinzu kommt eine angenehm kurze Spieldauer mit offiziellen 60 Minuten (unser Spiel dauert gerade 36 Minuten). Das Spiel ist sicher ein Highlight der Spielwarenmesse 2005.


Fjorde (Franz-Benno Delonge, 2 Spieler, ab 8 Jahre)

Fazit: Mit Fjorde steigt nun auch Hans im Glück in die Zwei-Personen-Spiele ein. Das Spiel besticht dabei durch einfachce Regeln, die aber einen großen Entschiedungsspielraum bieten.


Amazonas (Stefan Dorra, 3 - 4 Spieler, ab 10 Jahre)

Fazit: Amazonas ist eine der interessantesten Neuerschienungen der Spielwaremesse und hat auch inhaltlich einen Themenbereich, der nicht allzu oft für Spiele genutzt wird.


Alexander der Große (Ronald Hofstätter & Dietmar Keusch, 2 - 5 Spieler, ab 10 Jahre)

Fazit: Phalanx verlegt nicht nur große Spiele mit langer Spieldauer, sondern auch Spiele für Jedermann. Dabei wird wie oft bie Phalanx auf historische Themen zurückgegriffen.


Go West! (Leo Colovini, 2 - 4 Spieler, ab 10 Jahre)

Fazit: Analog zu Alexander der Große wird auch hier eine historische Gegebenheit nachgespielt.


Australia (Wolfgang Kramer & Michael Kiesling, 2 - 5 Spieler, ab 10 Jahre)

Fazit: Australia ist ein sehr schönes Spiel mit vielen taktischen Möglichkeiten und einem flotten Fortgang. Neben der Insel ist Australia das Flaggschiff von Ravensburger und das auf jeden Fall zurecht.


China (Michael Schacht, 2 - 5 Spieler, ab 12 Jahre)

Fazit: Ein gutes Spiel ist mit China nicht nur wieder erhältlich, sondern auch weiterentwickelt worden.


Coloretto Amazonas (Michael Schacht, 2 - 4 Spieler, ab 8 Jahre)

Fazit: Mit dem Namensvetter hat das Spiel das Ablegen von Karten, die Begrenzung der Kartenanzahl in den Reihen und die Punkte für Karten in den Reihen gemeinsam. Ansonsten ist es ein eigenständiges, flott zu spielendes, kurzweiliges Kartenablegespiel.


König Salomons Schatzkammer (Alessandro Saragosa, 2 - 5 Spieler, ab 8 Jahre)

Fazit: die Dreidimensionalität gepaart mit den diversen Ausgrabungsmöglichkeiten machen König Salomons Schatzkammer zu einer der interessantesten Neuheiten der Spielwarenmesse 2004.


Kreta (Stefan Dorra, 2 - 4 Spieler, ab 11 Jahre)

Fazit: Da jede Region genau einmal gespielt wird, geht das Spiel gradlinig vor sich. Auch hier muss man erst den Wert der einzelnen Figuren und der Aktionen kennen lernen, um das Spiel in seiner ganzen Tiefe zu verstehen.


Diamant (Alan R. Moon & Bruno Faidutti, 3 - 8 Spieler, ab 8 Jahre)

Fazit: Hier haben wir ein Zockerspiel mit dem Can't Stop-Symdrom. Wenn ich als einziger im Stollen bin, erhalte ich alles, aber wehe, ich treffe auf die falsche Gefahr...


Manila (Franz-Benno Delonge, 3 - 5 Spieler, ab 10 Jahre)

Fazit: Das Spiel bietet eine Mischung aus Wetten und aus taktischen Möglichkeiten. Dies ist sehr ungewöhnlich und wir sind gespannt auf die Reaktionen zu diesem Spiel.


San Ta Si (Jacques Zeimet, 2 Spieler, ab 10 Jahre)

Fazit: Dies ist ein Zwei-Personen-Spiel ohne Glücksfaktor in einer sehr ungewöhnlichen Aufmachung.


Expedition (Wolfgang Kramer, 2 - 6 Spieler, ab 10 Jahre)

Fazit: Die Überarbeitung hat der Wiederveröffentlichung gut getan.


King Arthur - das Kartenspiel (Reiner Knizia, 2 - 5 Spieler, ab 8 Jahre)

Fazit: Das King Arthur - Kartenspiel it ein tadellos funktionierendes Tauschspiel, bei dem allerdings das Thema aufgesetzt wirkt.
 
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These comments are so brief you can get an idea of what they're saying just by googling them. I have not edited this at all, so some of the game & designer names have been translated - in particular "The building of Towers to Babel" is designed by "Pure Knizia"

Louis XIV (Ruediger thorn, 2 - 4 players, starting from 12 years) result: Louis XIV was high-praised, when its prototype on that was introduced to play ' 04. Now the play for many players accessible to be and to show have whether it fulfills high expectations.

Palazzo (pure Knizia, 2 - 4 players, starting from 10 years) result: Palazzo is fast auction and building play. Since an auction play sounds to long time again interesting, because one does not here evenly only auctioneer, but also further possibilities exist.

Shade over Camelot (Bruno Cathala & serge Laget, 3 - 7 players, off? Years) result: Plays in the constellation "against all" enjoy of large popularity such as Scotland yard or the gentleman of the rings with the Sauron extension show. Now this scenario into one of the largest Fantas places of all times shifted and at the same time with one covers acting opponent combined.

Course around course Europe (Alan R. Moon, 2 - 5 players, starting from 8 years) result: with the new rules and the "closer" play plan appeared to me course around course still more interesting, since above all the stupide "I build only for a long time Strecken" strategy is void.

Carcassonne Burgfraeulein and Drache (Klaus Juergen Wrede, 2 - 6 players, starting from 8 years) result: Now there is a further variation option for Carcassonne. Likewise will friends one lay Carcassonne play to be pleased, because it now still more panels gives.

The building of towers to Babel (pure Knizia, 3 - 5, starting from 10 years) result: This play shows that a high interaction is possible without auction also. On both side, thus both the offering and the supporting players, have plentifully tactical possibilities. In addition a pleasantly short spieldauer comes with official 60 minutes (our play takes straight 36 minutes). The play is reliably a highlight of the play goods fair 2005.

Fjords (Franz Benno Delonge, 2 players, starting from 8 years) result: With fjords enters now also Hans in the luck into the two-person plays. The play captivates thereby by einfachce rules which offer however a large deciding clearance.

Of Amazon (Stefan Dorra, 3 - 4 players, starting from 10 years) result: Amazon is one the most interesting Neuerschienungen of the play commodity fair and has also contentwise a range of topics, which is not too often used for plays.

Alexander the large one (Ronald Hofstaetter & Dietmar Keusch, 2 - 5 players, starting from 10 years) result: Phalanx does not only shift large plays with long spieldauer, but also plays for everyone. How often bie Phalanx to historical topics one falls back.

Go west! (Leo Colovini, 2 - 4 players, starting from 10 years) result: Similarly to Alexander the large one is after-played also here a historical condition.

Australia (Wolfgang Kramer & Michael Kiesling, 2 - 5 players, starting from 10 years) result: Australia is a very beautiful play with many tactical possibilities and a quick continuation. Beside the island Australia is the flagship of Ravensburger and the in any case by right.

China (Michael pit, 2 - 5 players, starting from 12 years) result: A good play is not only again available with China, but also developed further.

Coloretto Amazon (Michael pit, 2 - 4 players, starting from 8 years) result: With the name cousin the play has the placing of maps, the delimitation of the number of maps in the rows and the points for maps in the rows together. Otherwise it is a its own, kurzweiliges map placing play quickly which can be played.

King Salomons vault (Alessandro Saragosa, 2 - 5 players, starting from 8 years) result: king Salomons vault make three-dimensionality with the various excavation possibilities paired one of the most interesting novelties of the play goods fair 2004.

Crete (Stefan Dorra, 2 - 4 players, starting from 11 year) result: Since each region is exactly once played, the play takes place gradlinig. Also here one must learn the value of the individual figures and the actions to know only, in order to understand the play in its whole depth.

Diamond (Alan R. Moon & Bruno Faidutti, 3 - 8 players, starting from 8 years) result: Here we have a Zockerspiel with the Can't stop Symdrom. If I am as only in the lug, I receive everything, but blow, I meet the wrong danger...

Manila (Franz Benno Delonge, 3 - 5 players, starting from 10 years) result: The play offers a mixture from bets and from tactical possibilities. This is very unusual and we is strained on the reactions to this play. San TA SI (Jacques Zeimet, 2 players, starting from 10 years) result: This is a two-person play without luck factor in a very unusual opening.

Expedition (Wolfgang Kramer, 2 - 6 players, starting from 10 years) result: The revision did to the republication well.

King Arthur - the pack of cards (pure Knizia, 2 - of 5 players, starting from 8 years) result: The King Arthur - pack of cards it a perfectly functioning exchange play, with which however the topic works touched down.
 
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Alexander the large one.

Also Australia isn't an island its a continent. These translations always get something wrong.
 
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Hi Rupert!

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Also Australia isn't an island its a continent. These translations always get something wrong.

Well, the error is in the original, not in the translation. In German they are saying Australia is an island... A human translator would put a footnote on this, but you can't possibly expect a machine to do much better than this one did.
 
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oh, oh online translations: the original Australia text says: Australia is a very beautiful game with many tactical possibilities and has a fast gameplay. Together with the game "Insel" is Australia the flagship of Ravensburger and the in any case by right.

and Valdir: for Germans Australia is never in the linguistic usage an island, but a continent
 
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Zug um Zug Europa (Alan R. Moon, 2 - 5 Spieler, ab 8 Jahre)

Fazit: mit den neuen Regeln und dem "engeren" Spielplan erschient mir Zug um Zug noch interessanter, da vor allem die stupide "Ich-bau-nur-lange-Strecken"-Strategie entfällt.

Ticket to Ride Europe redtraingreentrainbluetrainblacktrainyellowtrain

Summary: with the new rules and "tighter" gameplan, Ticket to Ride seems to me even more interesting, especially since the stupid "I only build long routes" strategy no longer applies.

...tschüss!
 
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Alexander the Great (the long one)laugh

Phalanx does not only publish large games which need long time, but also games for everyone. Phalanx use in this game, like in their most games, historical topics.
 
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Simon, thanks for posting the gist to get us started.

But these Google translations translations are pretty awful! Help, Germans! Rescue us from Google-babble!
 
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Can someone translate the Fjords review? The auto translation for that one is particularly hard to understand.
 
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Translation Fjorde
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Fjorde (Franz-Benno Delonge, 2 Players, age 8 and up)

Bottom line: With Fjorde publisher Hans im Glück is now also climbing on the bandwagon of Two-Player games. The game distinguishes itself by clear and simple rules, which yet leave a lot of freedom for decision-making.
 
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Thanks Jorg! meeple
 
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Alexander the large one.

Also Australia isn't an island its a continent. These translations always get something wrong.


Not to sound pedantic, but isn't the continent Oceania?

Cheers,
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What gets me is the Queen line up of games that I haven't even seen in any of the gamefest previews:

http://www.reich-der-spiele.de/images/rds/nuernberg2005/quee...

They look like they are getting busy!

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It appears these are smaller, faster games, for 2 or 2-4 players, in Alhambra-sized boxes (and easy for newer players?) - from what I can make out from the German.

The Architect and Inca games look interesting to me.

There's more info from:
http://www.poeppelkiste.de/messen/2005/nuernberg/index.htm
Here's my attempt at a quick translation:

Architekton (Michael Schacht, 2 players, 8 and older)
Architect?
"Players erect buildings in competition."

Das Gold der Inka (Harald Lieske, 2 - 4 players, 8 and older)
The Gold of the Incas
"Played in a labyrinth."

Rattenscharf (Michael Schacht, 2 players, 8 and older)
Sharp Rats?
"Based on the 2 person game Dschunke (Chinese Junk?), which Michael Schacht has offered before as a download from his website."

Revolte in Rom (Stefan Feld, 2 players, 8 and older)
Revolt in Rome
"Deals with intrigue in ancient Rome - dice rolls decide which played cards (take effect?)"

Taxi (Friedemann Friese, 2 - 4 players, 8 and older)
"A new version of Flickwerk (?)"
 
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Hmmmmm,

I don't know about Nuremberg this year. Looks like some recycled stuff. TtR-Europe, TransEurope, China ...

Also, just saw the pic for Towel of Babel. It's a little pale and uninspiring, and the game in itself is short (report of the first game of 30 something minutes).

Anyway, I guess we gotta wait for the reviews to come in.

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Hmmmmm,

I don't know about Nuremberg this year. Looks like some recycled stuff. TtR-Europe, TransEurope, China ...



As well as competing themes this year, Hollywood style:

Deep Impact or Armegeddon, Kosmos Amazonas or Coloretto Amazonas?

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I'm actually interested in a lot of the new games, including:

Louis XIV
Palazzo
Ticket to Ride: Europa
Carcassonne - Maidens und Dragons
The Tower Babel
Fjords
Amazonas
Go West!
Australia
China
Coloretto Amazonas
King Solomon's Treasure Chamber
Crete
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Manila
Expedition
King Arthur
 
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The picture of the gameboard that's up for Tower of Babel looks a little pale for my taste (prototype?), and the comment that the game only lasted 30 something minutes...I was hoping for a little bit more from a big box game.

Amazonas looks promising. Seems like there could be a good amount of chaos on the board....like it.

Australia could have a problem with downtime if you play with people that overanalyze their move, so I might stay away from that one.

Carcassonne - the Dragon one - yeah sure, my son will love it.

The other Carcassonne game...the one with the mountains and the water....why?

Settlers...
http://www.reich-der-spiele.de/images/rds/nuernberg2005/sied...
do you tell me I can get this version soon? A assume that is not the 18 Euro Gold version available, but they describe a version with 3-D terrain tiles??? Huh???

 
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> What gets me is the Queen line up of games that I haven't even seen in any of the gamefest previews:

It gets me too!

Queen is notorious for not giving out information on their games. It's like they don't want people to know they exist!

I didn't have any information on these games but the German websites didn't either. I actually posted a small bit about these games yesterday and will be posting more today or tomorrow.

- Rick
 
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I has a meeting with Queen and they've got as new PR girl, who's really nice and helpful. They are also re-doing their website. Shogun/Wallenstein is progressing , though the exact name is uncertain at this stage.
 
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