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Jim Sutherland
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I am growing even more concerned about the lack of definite news about the reprint of 1860.

Pre-ordering games with JKLM appears to have become a bit like playing Diamant - just how far do you press your luck before a catastrophe that has already happened will happen again meaning you lose everything?

Well I want to run from the bottomless pit! Does anyone know how I get my prepayment money returned?

Edited for spelling.
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I am starting to feel the same...please post any results!!
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Hi,

I got this reply

No worries!
Your money isn't lost and the game will be going to the printer soon.
Normally you should be able to pick it up at Essen, but I can't be 100% sure of that. You never know what may happen.
I'll keep you informed.


this morning from els (els@jklmgames.com). So I will wait and see what happens. Hopefully I can pick up my copy at the spiel.
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You should probably write back and ask which Essen.

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I do too- I feel completely ripped off. There seems to be something about preorders, that simply corrupts small game publisher/designers.

"No worries" doesn't begin to cover it- it's an insult to respond like that, while they've taken on all our cash.

If anyone can cancel their order and get an actual refund, please confirm here. (Instead of the standing reply that the game will exist, sometime in the future.)
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Wasn't it a PayPal payment? Would filing a complaint through PayPal help, if the publisher is non-cooperational?

I've got money in 1860 as well, but I like the game enough to keep waiting for now. The money doesn't exist to me anymore...
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On August 31, d0gb0t/els wrote:
Your money isn't lost and the game will be going to the printer soon.



On June 13th, Markus wrote:
Things are moving forward and the game is about to go into production,


In other words, same status as June?
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blueatheart wrote:
On August 31, d0gb0t/els wrote:
Your money isn't lost and the game will be going to the printer soon.



On June 13th, Markus wrote:
Things are moving forward and the game is about to go into production,


In other words, same status as June?


2010 *and* 2009.

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For some odd reason I have faith that it will all work out.
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thepackrat wrote:
You should probably write back and ask which Essen.

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Tamburlain wrote:
thepackrat wrote:
You should probably write back and ask which Essen.

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No way it will be that long.... The Earth is scheduled to terminate before then.... something to do with an ancient calendar or the Galactic Hyperspace Planning Council.... I forget which....
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rvinyard wrote:
Tamburlain wrote:
thepackrat wrote:
You should probably write back and ask which Essen.

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No way it will be that long.... The Earth is scheduled to terminate before then.... something to do with an ancient calendar or the Galactic Hyperspace Planning Council.... I forget which....


So what you're saying is...never.
 
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[q="msaari"]Wasn't it a PayPal payment? Would filing a complaint through PayPal help, if the publisher is non-cooperational?

I've got money in 1860 as well, but I like the game enough to keep waiting for now. The money doesn't exist to me anymore...[/q

I'm with you on this. I've got money on this and Ascendancy, but I don't want to get it back. What I want is someone knocking on my door to deliver me the games!
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blueatheart wrote:
rvinyard wrote:
Tamburlain wrote:
thepackrat wrote:
You should probably write back and ask which Essen.

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No way it will be that long.... The Earth is scheduled to terminate before then.... something to do with an ancient calendar or the Galactic Hyperspace Planning Council.... I forget which....


So what you're saying is...never.

Not really... just that you'll have to get your copy from Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz... after a bit of poetry.
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rvinyard wrote:
blueatheart wrote:
rvinyard wrote:
Tamburlain wrote:
thepackrat wrote:
You should probably write back and ask which Essen.

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2013


No way it will be that long.... The Earth is scheduled to terminate before then.... something to do with an ancient calendar or the Galactic Hyperspace Planning Council.... I forget which....


So what you're saying is...never.

Not really... just that you'll have to get your copy from Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz... after a bit of poetry.


You know, on second thought, they can keep the money.
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I would like to put everyones mind at rest
despite our recent problems with various things happening one after the otherwill get your game soon you are welcome to get your money bck,
we are not going away and infact are pushing forward with reigniting ourselves this has taken longer than i hoped but i can assure you we are making progress, and, great fire and mijnlieff will be at essen
and are going to print this week.
fingers crossed nothing will stop this from happening

however if you realy have lost faith that you want your money back i will make it happen
however i would like to point out that if you change your mind to buy the game once it has been relesed that it will cost you the full price
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Markus Welbourne wrote:
I would like to put everyones mind at rest
despite our recent problems with various things happening one after the otherwill get your game soon you are welcome to get your money bck,
we are not going away and infact are pushing forward with reigniting ourselves this has taken longer than i hoped but i can assure you we are making progress, and, great fire and mijnlieff will be at essen
and are going to print this week.
fingers crossed nothing will stop this from happening

however if you realy have lost faith that you want your money back i will make it happen
however i would like to point out that if you change your mind to buy the game once it has been relesed that it will cost you the full price


Thanks for the message, but wow, it's like a Nigerian scammer wrote the thing. Grammar is important!

What is mijnlieff???

It's very difficult to parse, but it appears as though Great Fire and...something are going to print this week. Is 1860 included on this list? Is the schedule currently in line to get it to Essen?

I'm still staying strong on the pre-order, but...grammar issues of this magnitude simply don't inspire strong confidence in me, what with all the other happenings.
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Market value on the game will probably exceed pre-order price once the print run has sold out, so I imagine there'd be no difficulty in finding people to take over pre-orders as an investment for a later marketplace sale.
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Personally, I'm happy to wait... as long as I don't end up having to listen to Vogon poetry...
 
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blueatheart wrote:
What is mijnlieff???


I recently heard a rumour that JKLM would publish an abstract at Essen, guess this is it: Mijnlieff.

Interesting that this takes precedence over 1860 and the other games in the queue - makes me glad I managed to get a refund for 1860.
 
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Markus Welbourne wrote:
fingers crossed nothing will stop this from happening


This message does not inspire confidence.
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I didn't want to bring it up, but there's some Vogon poetry I've been composing.

I'm quite proud of it- and I've been looking forward to sharing it, with all with you.

I'll go request a refund, and meanwhile we can also hope that the printing happens this week, as scheduled.

But if not- since you're all here anyway, I could share some of my favorite stanzas! Thanks so much for the interest!

Oh the wind on the vane went wibble and wane
Twas my love not wont in vain
Thy thigh pumps with thy vein
and twas never ne'er the sane.
No.
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Yet again JKLM push another game above Ascendancy and Huang Di







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Sorp222 wrote:
Yet again JKLM push another game above Ascendancy and Huang Di


Fair goes Paul, you don't get to complain until those hypothetical other games actually appear

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I suggest no one preorder anything until they see the game physically in front of them.

In fact scratch that - take your money elsewhere.
 
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