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Very excited about this:

http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/archos-announces-five-n...

Hopefully it should drive iPad prices down, as well as end the silly arguements (that I love trolling!)
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If it can open PDF's and run vassal.. I am getting one. Period
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Photoshop? Stylus drawing?

Somebody needs to put out a tablet that will work for artists. Since my Gateway tablet pc is nearing 5 years old I'm getting very nervous about it and I'm not seeing any new tablet PCs on the market.
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You realize that Archos' tablets are not telephony capable and therefore have no access to the normal Android market unless you hack them to, right?

Also, there's a VASSAL for Android?
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My HP tc1100 tanked and I'll never buy from that company again. I'm suspect of any tablet now. The tiny profile requires tiny parts and that results in greatly increased failure rates.

Paying $300 for a "tablet" style machine that will run VASSAL? Now that works for me.

That last post was correct however. Archos seems like a closed system working inside of a fairly open system (Android) that is still quite limited. Java based though so good hope, and far more than with Apple.

Thanks for the post OP.

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gschmidl wrote:
You realize that Archos' tablets are not telephony capable and therefore have no access to the normal Android market unless you hack them to, right?

Also, there's a VASSAL for Android?


What do you mean 'not telephony capable'? It has WiFi-N. I may not be able to use it in the middle of a park or something, but most places I personally spend time have some sort of WiFi. And admittedly not having the Google Android Market is a problem, but it will have the Archos Market, and I imagine many developers will place their applications in there.

Regarding Vassal, Vassal runs on Java, and Java runs on Android. It may take a special packaging of Vassal, but it won't be hard. If no one does it right away, I'll volunteer to do it myself. :p
 
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Also I should have posted the links from Toshiba, Samsung, Viewsonic, Rydeen, and others who announced the launch of their tablets this week. Boatloads of them are coming. One that will suit almost any user. Kmart already sold out of a $150 Android tablet that some no-name company already got to market.
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/grab your parade umbrellas, here comes the rain

I think you folks are vastly underestimating the resource requirements of your average VASSAL module.

Fire up something like Combat Commander, check your system resources, and then compare that to any of these tablets... we're still quite a ways away from anything that can handle VASSAL. Just having JAVA is not enough!
 
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What do you mean 'not telephony capable'?


I meant "doesn't have a phone chip", but it turns out that's not the problem -- the lack of GPS is what blocks them from the Android market.

It'd be nice if VASSAL ran but I, too, fear that it's way too overwhelming for the kind of CPU you'd find in a tablet. However, hopefully Android's success will mean more games appearing for it and not just iOS.
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/grab your parade umbrellas, here comes the rain

I think you folks are vastly underestimating the resource requirements of your average VASSAL module.

Fire up something like Combat Commander, check your system resources, and then compare that to any of these tablets... we're still quite a ways away from anything that can handle VASSAL. Just having JAVA is not enough!


The memory requirements for VASSAL 3.2 will be dramatically less than for previous versions, so if the issue is these devices having too little memory, you might find that won't be a problem.
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Awesome. thanks Joel.

I think we can all see the day where we will have what we truly desire.

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Shad wrote:
/grab your parade umbrellas, here comes the rain

I think you folks are vastly underestimating the resource requirements of your average VASSAL module.

Fire up something like Combat Commander, check your system resources, and then compare that to any of these tablets... we're still quite a ways away from anything that can handle VASSAL. Just having JAVA is not enough!


I'll do that. Thanks for pointing out something I hadn't thought of! However, the boards in Vassal are pretty high-res scans and such. I bet there are optimizations that can be made within the modules to help things out, and in addition the Vassal devs might start lowering the footprint of the framework itself if they see alot of interest in the mobile market.
 
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uckelman wrote:


The memory requirements for VASSAL 3.2 will be dramatically less than for previous versions, so if the issue is these devices having too little memory, you might find that won't be a problem.



Great to hear, but v3.2 has been on the horizon for quite a while
 
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Shad wrote:
uckelman wrote:


The memory requirements for VASSAL 3.2 will be dramatically less than for previous versions, so if the issue is these devices having too little memory, you might find that won't be a problem.



Great to hear, but v3.2 has been on the horizon for quite a while


The web site migration set us back about four months on the development schedule I had in mind.
 
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ejcarter wrote:
Photoshop? Stylus drawing?

Somebody needs to put out a tablet that will work for artists. Since my Gateway tablet pc is nearing 5 years old I'm getting very nervous about it and I'm not seeing any new tablet PCs on the market.


PS? How about SAI?
Lenovo has the X series in a Tablet.

gschmidl wrote:
You realize that Archos' tablets are not telephony capable and therefore have no access to the normal Android market unless you hack them to, right?


There's even a how-to video.
http://wiki.archosfans.com/index.php?title=Android_Market_Pa...
 
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