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Ian
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Greetings 18vets.

As a new player to the system, I have begun to wonder about what possibilities exist for me out in this wide world. So I ask, what is the "bloodiest" 18xx game?

By "bloody" I mean:
- Bankruptcies
- Company Takeovers
- Train rush
- Station blocking
- Limited tile lay
- Stock manipulation

What I enjoy the most about these games is the degree of interaction and complexity. I don't enjoy moments where everyone runs their trains several times with only incremental gains or where trains flow out smoothly without any trouble.

What, oh 18vets, do you think?
 
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Andrew Schoonmaker
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I've never played it, but by reputation 1841 has a lot of scope for shenanigans. I am told that 1849 has a lot of similiarities.

The group I usually play with tends (mostly) towards the "nicer" titles, so the most vicious game I've played is probably 1856, which has opportunities for all of the things that you list (though company takeovers are rare). 1832 has some opportunities for hosing, but there's (usually) just enough cash to pay for trains. I haven't played with the Bank, though, and I'm not sure whether that would make it better or worse.
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Breno K.
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Most definitely 1841. Even though I haven't played it yet, just reading the manual gave me the creeps.

18MEX can be brutal as well. 1848 has a few nasty edges to it too.
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Ron K
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1841 is 3 involved 18xx games sharing the same map and bank. Add the ability for each company to purchase other companies shares and the best way to sum it up is Wow! 1841 is not for beginners and not everyone who's played it would play it again. It certainly qualifies as a bloody beast of a game.

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Ben Foy
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Well 1830 should be mentioned...
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J C Lawrence
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1849: The Game of Sicilian Railways also comes to mind, as does my own 1843 (there is usually a point where a single train is bought that rusts every other train in the game).
 
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