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Stronghold announced in their newsletter that they will be doing Outpost in 2011.
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Today is a sad day for eBay.
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dkeisen wrote:

Today is a sad day for eBay.


But a good day for those of us whose copy is starting to wear out. My family loves Outpost. Replacing my original with a new copy will be welcome indeed!
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Yep another game I have been wanting to own but I was not going to build my own nor pay the asking prices.
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If I can get Outpost at regular retail prices, then it moves WAY up on my wishlist.

Or maybe not -- I've become accustomed to playing a friend's computerized version at LAN parties, and the constant math of figuring out what the next lowest legal auction bid I can pay is, and how to divide my money into multiple purchases, may no longer be so appealing.
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I will absolutely buy Outpost. But I see it always being a change of pace thing from Das Zepter for me. I love Das Zepter, which I know is not the general position held by the Outpost purist crowd.
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One hopes they will improve not only the physical appearance but the mechanical systems. For example, why have a bunch of fiddly counters which are literally _counters_ for the number of factories, when a pawn on a track will serve just as well?
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dkeisen wrote:

Today is a sad day for eBay.


possibly the post of the month!
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Hey everyone!

Stronghold Games is very excited to be doing a reprint of this great game!

As we always do, Stronghold Games is working with the original designer, James Hlavaty, as well as the other former owners and investors in TimJim Games. Jim, who's just a great guy, was kind enough to invite me to his family's summer house on the Jersey Shore, so that we could not only discuss the reprint, but also for me to play Outpost with his whole family. His wife and children are wonderful as well. It was a real treat!

Stronghold Games will, of course, be doing a major upgrade on the components of the game, bringing them up to the highest-quality, 2010 printing standards. It is our intention to add some additional components and optional rules, so that the game can be played just as it was originally designed...OR it can be enjoyed with these new components and rules too. This is how we reintroduced Survive: Escape from Atlantis!, and this idea was well-received.

We look forward to providing you with additional details as we move forward on this production.

Outpost is the first game announced in the Stronghold Games 2011 game lineup... but there will be more, including additional big surprises...

Thanks,
Stephen M. Buonocore
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Stronghold Games LLC
www.stronghold-games.com

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I suggest including the v1.32 rules at least as an option. Most everyone I know who loves the game uses them.

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Thanks, Stephen (and to the OP and BGN too!), you can't imagine how happy I am to know about this. I'm a die-hard SoZ fan who always wanted to play Outpost but never got the chance. I even tried to make a $140 offer in a math trade that had an Outpost. I'm glad it didnt work out.

I *WILL* buy the reprint (don't feel ashamed to offer a special limited edition!).

Delusional musing: There's 99% chance I will go to next year's Essen. In the off chance the game appears there, I'd dearly love an autographed copy.
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Eric Brosius wrote:
I suggest including the v1.32 rules at least as an option. Most everyone I know who loves the game uses them.



We will certainly take a good look at this ruleset. If the gaming community values a ruleset, then I think it's something that we should consider.
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...bringing them up to the highest-quality, 2010 printing standards.


Chinese or German standards?


Also, please, please, please, use 2.5" x 3.5" card stock so that we can easily sleeve this game.
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Eric Brosius wrote:
I suggest including the v1.32 rules at least as an option. Most everyone I know who loves the game uses them.


Are those the expert rules, because if so I agree that they are essential.

I made a homemade Outpost last year, and it's been a huge hit. There will be some sales in Minneapolis for sure when this is released.

 
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Or maybe not -- I've become accustomed to playing a friend's computerized version at LAN parties, and the constant math of figuring out what the next lowest legal auction bid I can pay is, and how to divide my money into multiple purchases, may no longer be so appealing.


Compared to the computerized version, you might be annoyed. But it's really not that bad. I carry a stack of $3 calculators in my backpack, and they generally only get used on the last two turns. You're usually only adding up a half dozen numbers at a time.
 
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Or maybe not -- I've become accustomed to playing a friend's computerized version at LAN parties, and the constant math of figuring out what the next lowest legal auction bid I can pay is, and how to divide my money into multiple purchases, may no longer be so appealing.


Compared to the computerized version, you might be annoyed. But it's really not that bad. I carry a stack of $3 calculators in my backpack, and they generally only get used on the last two turns. You're usually only adding up a half dozen numbers at a time.


Based on what I have seen from Stronghold Games I would not be surprised if the game did not include calculators.

I have never played this game but the one criticism I have heard is there is a run away leader problem. Is that an unjustified criticism or has that been addressed in update rules?

I still cannot believe that I am getting a chance to own this game. I am a fan of The Scepter of Zavandor nd I like Phoenicia. Both I understand owe a lot to Outpost.
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There is that "problem" and this was a core issue that Das Zepter and Phoenicia both tried to address: Das Zepter by bonusing players who fall behind and Phoenicia by having the game end right when the runaway leader is established.

Accept that and revel in it. Take it as the reward for good play. Just make sure it is you who is the leader.

And actually, Outpost has more of a fallaway loser problem than a runaway leader problem. There is often more than one player who is in contention at the end. But if your economy doesn't get going, you just fall further and further behind. Have to accept that it just isn't your day.


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jdludlow wrote:
evilone wrote:
...bringing them up to the highest-quality, 2010 printing standards.


Chinese or German standards?


Also, please, please, please, use 2.5" x 3.5" card stock so that we can easily sleeve this game.



This will be printed up to Stronghold Games standards, meaning the best quality product we can put into a gamebox at a reasonable price to you.

Yes, we'll definitely consider making the card stock a size that is sleeve-able.


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Maybe Stronghold can set a new standard and include tuck boxes for the cards. It is beyond me why manufacturers don't provide this simple thing. Of course those who like to sleeve their cards (not me yuk ) wouldn't be happy unless the box held sleeved cards. Proving you can never make everyone happy.
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Excellent. This is a great game.

Please pick a different color scheme for research cards. These cards are blinding in the original.
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I still own an almost new copy of "Outpost" but I'm extremely interested in a reworked copy too!
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Excellent. This is a great game.

Please pick a different color scheme for research cards. These cards are blinding in the original.


And don't ever print anything in yellow on white. :-)
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Hurray! I can hardly wait!
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Maybe Stronghold can set a new standard and include tuck boxes for the cards. It is beyond me why manufacturers don't provide this simple thing.

SERIOUSLY!
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turtleback wrote:
Maybe Stronghold can set a new standard and include tuck boxes for the cards. It is beyond me why manufacturers don't provide this simple thing.


The fact that this is generally not done should make you think that perhaps it isn't the simple thing you think it is. Occasional exceptions notwithstanding, games publishers aren't run by stupid people, and know their business better than you or I do.

I can actually be fairly sure that the answer is a combination of two things: lack of demand and cost. Note that the cost is higher than you might think it is, it's not just the manufacturing cost, but also any artwork issues, assembly issues and then needs marking up to retail (each ten cents on a cost is several times that ten cents on the retail price). I saw a comment once from Steve Cole (ADB - Star Fleet Battles) on how some apparently small thing that someone suggested adding (I forget what) would have added a dollar or two at the stores, and that was not a good thing.
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