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Roee Anuar
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This is a nice riddle I would like to solve – what is the maximal score achievable in Le Havre + expansion.
Using the inn and the fisherman’s hut from Le Grand Hameau, and the fish restaurant, I think there is a chance to pass the 55 million score achieved using the fisherman’s hut and zoo combo:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/492357/expansion-buildin...

However, without the zoo there is a problem building the franc buffer needed for multiple uses of the fisherman’s hut.
Arrange the building cards and supply chits the way you want, and try to get as many visits as you can to the fisherman’s hut:

At the end of the 1st round the fisherman’s hut (cost 6, value 4, no entrance cost, +2 fish for owner at end of round) should be revealed.
At the end of the 3rd round the fish restaurant (cost 6, 1 food entrance cost) should be revealed.
At the end of the 5th round the inn should be (cost 4, 2 food/1 franc entrance cost) revealed.

Turns 1-49 should be used for maximizing the number of fish
Turn 50 should be used for turning the fish into smoked fish using the inn
The final action should be used in the fish restaurant to receive 3 francs for each smoked fish.
To pass the 55 million score, assuming you have 5 fish to begin with, the fisherman’s hut should be visited about 38 times.
Since it is only available from the 8th round, the maximal amount of uses is (49-8)+1=42 uses (anyone said 42?)

This is a non-optimal scenario I had in mind (I hope I didn't make any mistakes) – feel free to change it as you will, to break the 55 million franc limit:


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there is already a thread here, where somebody got like 40,000,000 francs
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I know, and I feel there can be a better score.
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I managed to get 34 Million francs, I'll check it again and post the results. If there are no errors - 1 more visit to the hut will bring us to a tie. 2 more visits will set a new record.
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I managed to achieve 33.8 million points with the following setup:
Supply chits:
[1 wood + 1 franc], [1 wood + 1 clay], [1 fish + 1 clay], [1 iron + 1 franc], [1 wood + 1 cattle], [1 fish + 1 grain], [1 wood + 1 fish, interest]

Building Proposals 1:
Bakehouse(05),.Abbatoir(09), Wharf(12), Ironworks(22), Steel Mill (23)

Building Proposals 2:
Marketplace(1), Fishery(3), Smokehouse(8), Clay Mound(10), Cokery (25)

Building Proposals 3:
Charcoal Kiln(7), Brickworks (14), Colliery(16), Shipping Line (18), Tannery (20)

Turns:
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I managed to get to 47 million buy using a loan trick - getting to 0 francs before the interest turn.
To make sure I'm always on 0 francs on the interest turn, I bought the clay mound each time I had a 2 franc balance.

I still think there is room for improvement, since i didn't use any of my grains - which may help feeding and getting more francs.


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I mean....wow....what is the problem with you guys?!?

I doubt Uwe's intention was to make "normal" people reach such a humongous score. gulp
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I managed to hit 55.7 million.

You already did a great job optimizing money usage and timing sells/buys to the point of the use of the smokehouse. I'd hoped to improve upon this, but ended up having to keep it essentially the same, including placement of interest at position 7 and buy/sell of claymound.

Most of my improvement was from optimization of chit placement to allow 2 more fish early on. I also was able to slightly optimize use of the hut starting in late round 4. There is still a small bit of optimization possible concerning use of francs vs fish at smokehouse, restaurant, and food for rounds 4-7. I think we're neck-and-neck vs fisherman's hut+zoo for abusive solo score right now, but such optimization could make the difference.

Chits:
1- fish, clay
2- fish, grain
3- wood, franc
4- wood, clay
5- iron, franc
6- wood, cattle
7- wood, fish (interest)

Special buildings: fisherman's hut, fish restaurant, inn

Standard buildings:
pile 1- fishery, smokehouse, charcoal kiln, shipping line, steel mill
pile 2- marketplace, clay mound, wharf, iron works, cokery
pile 3- remainder of items set to ? for don't care

Play log:

[2011/10/08, 18:32.47] Login data saved: [Game=local] [Name=aaron]
[2011/10/08, 18:32.50] Chat started...
[2011/10/08, 18:32.50] aaron joined the game.
[2011/10/08, 18:33.04] Game Settings successfully loaded.
[2011/10/08, 18:33.06] The game settings have been changed.
[2011/10/08, 18:33.07] We will play the Long Game.
[2011/10/08, 18:33.07] Game setup completed.

[Round 1]

[2011/10/08, 18:33.08] New supply chit revealed: Fish, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:33.08] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:33.11] aaron takes 2 Clay.

[2011/10/08, 18:33.12] New supply chit revealed: Fish, Grain
[2011/10/08, 18:33.12] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain
[2011/10/08, 18:33.14] aaron takes 2 Wood.

[2011/10/08, 18:33.15] New supply chit revealed: Wood, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:33.15] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:33.16] aaron takes 3 Francs.

[2011/10/08, 18:33.17] New supply chit revealed: Wood, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:33.17] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:33.19] aaron takes 2 Wood.

[2011/10/08, 18:33.20] New supply chit revealed: Iron, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:33.20] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:33.23] aaron buys for 8 Francs: Construction Firm (8)
[2011/10/08, 18:33.25] aaron enters a building: Construction Firm
[2011/10/08, 18:33.27] aaron builds for 2 Wood: Marketplace (6)
[2011/10/08, 18:33.29] aaron builds for 1 Wood and 1 Clay: Fishery (10)

[2011/10/08, 18:33.30] New supply chit revealed: Wood, Cattle
[2011/10/08, 18:33.30] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle
[2011/10/08, 18:33.31] aaron enters a building: Marketplace
[2011/10/08, 18:33.37] aaron receives 1 Wood, 1 Clay and 1 Coal.

[2011/10/08, 18:33.39] New supply chit revealed: Wood, Fish, Interest
[2011/10/08, 18:33.39] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish
[2011/10/08, 18:33.41] aaron enters a building: Construction Firm
[2011/10/08, 18:33.42] aaron builds for 1 Clay: Charcoal Kiln (8)
[2011/10/08, 18:33.44] aaron builds for 2 Wood and 1 Clay: Smokehouse (6)
[2011/10/08, 18:33.45] Round 1 is finished.
[2011/10/08, 18:33.45] 5 Food are due at the end of the round.
[2011/10/08, 18:33.45] aaron needs to pay 5 Food.
[2011/10/08, 18:33.47] aaron takes 2 loans.
[2011/10/08, 18:33.47] aaron discards 5 Francs.
[2011/10/08, 18:33.47] A new ship enters the game: Wooden Ship (2)
[2011/10/08, 18:33.47] The town constructs a new special building: Fisherman's Hut (4)

[Round 2]


[2011/10/08, 18:33.47] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:33.49] aaron enters a building: Fishery
[2011/10/08, 18:33.49] aaron receives 5 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:33.50] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain
[2011/10/08, 18:33.52] aaron takes 7 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:33.53] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:33.57] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:33.57] aaron loses 12 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:33.57] aaron receives 18 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:33.58] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:34.00] aaron enters a building: Fishery
[2011/10/08, 18:34.00] aaron receives 5 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:34.01] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:34.03] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:34.03] aaron loses 22 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:34.03] aaron receives 33 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:34.04] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle
[2011/10/08, 18:34.07] aaron sells for 3 Francs: Smokehouse (6)
[2011/10/08, 18:34.10] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:34.13] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:34.13] aaron loses 34 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:34.13] aaron receives 51 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:34.14] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish
[2011/10/08, 18:34.19] aaron takes 1 loan.
[2011/10/08, 18:34.19] aaron pays 1 Franc of interest.
[2011/10/08, 18:34.24] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:34.26] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:34.26] aaron loses 50 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:34.26] aaron receives 75 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:34.30] Round 2 is finished.
[2011/10/08, 18:34.30] 10 Food are due at the end of the round.
[2011/10/08, 18:34.30] aaron needs to pay 10 Food.
[2011/10/08, 18:34.54] aaron discards 10 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:34.54] A new ship enters the game: Wooden Ship (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:34.54] The town constructs a new standard building: Bakehouse (8)

[Round 3]


[2011/10/08, 18:34.54] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:35.00] aaron sells for 5 Francs: Fishery (10)
[2011/10/08, 18:35.03] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:35.05] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:35.05] aaron loses 66 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:35.05] aaron receives 99 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:35.06] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain
[2011/10/08, 18:35.08] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:35.10] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:35.10] aaron loses 98 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:35.10] aaron receives 147 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:35.11] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:35.14] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:35.17] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:35.17] aaron loses 148 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:35.17] aaron receives 222 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:35.18] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:35.19] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:35.22] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:35.22] aaron loses 222 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:35.22] aaron receives 333 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:35.22] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:35.25] aaron sells for 4 Francs: Charcoal Kiln (8)
[2011/10/08, 18:35.27] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:35.29] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:35.29] aaron loses 332 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:35.29] aaron receives 498 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:35.30] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle
[2011/10/08, 18:35.32] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:35.37] aaron buys for 2 Francs: Clay Mound (2)
[2011/10/08, 18:35.43] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:35.43] aaron loses 498 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:35.43] aaron receives 747 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:35.45] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish
[2011/10/08, 18:35.47] aaron takes 1 loan.
[2011/10/08, 18:35.47] aaron pays 1 Franc of interest.
[2011/10/08, 18:35.51] aaron sells for 3 Francs: Marketplace (6)
[2011/10/08, 18:35.54] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:35.57] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:35.57] aaron loses 748 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:35.57] aaron receives 1122 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:36.05] Round 3 is finished.
[2011/10/08, 18:36.05] 15 Food are due at the end of the round.
[2011/10/08, 18:36.05] aaron receives 2 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:36.05] aaron needs to pay 15 Food.
[2011/10/08, 18:36.11] aaron discards 15 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:36.11] A new ship enters the game: Iron Ship (6)
[2011/10/08, 18:36.11] The town constructs a new special building: Fish Restaurant (6)

[Round 4]


[2011/10/08, 18:36.11] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:36.18] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:36.21] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:36.21] aaron loses 1108 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:36.21] aaron receives 1662 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:36.22] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain
[2011/10/08, 18:36.24] aaron sells for 4 Francs: Construction Firm (8)
[2011/10/08, 18:36.26] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:36.29] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:36.29] aaron loses 1662 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:36.29] aaron receives 2493 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:36.30] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:36.32] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:36.35] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:36.35] aaron loses 2494 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:36.35] aaron receives 3741 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:36.36] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:37.04] aaron enters a building: Smokehouse
[2011/10/08, 18:37.04] aaron pays the town 2 Fishes as entry fee.
[2011/10/08, 18:37.07] aaron loses 1 Coal and 6 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:37.07] aaron receives 6 Smoked Fishes and 3 Francs.

[2011/10/08, 18:37.10] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:37.24] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:37.24] aaron loses 3732 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:37.24] aaron receives 5598 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:37.31] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle
[2011/10/08, 18:37.34] aaron sells for 1 Franc: Clay Mound (2)
[2011/10/08, 18:37.37] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:37.40] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:37.40] aaron loses 5598 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:37.40] aaron receives 8397 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:37.42] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish
[2011/10/08, 18:37.43] aaron takes 1 loan.
[2011/10/08, 18:37.43] aaron pays 1 Franc of interest.
[2011/10/08, 18:37.45] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:37.48] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:37.48] aaron loses 8398 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:37.48] aaron receives 12597 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:39.21] Round 4 is finished.
[2011/10/08, 18:39.21] 20 Food are due at the end of the round.
[2011/10/08, 18:39.21] aaron needs to pay 20 Food.
[2011/10/08, 18:39.28] aaron discards 20 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:39.28] A new ship enters the game: Iron Ship (10)
[2011/10/08, 18:39.28] The town constructs a new standard building: Abattoir (8)

[Round 5]


[2011/10/08, 18:39.28] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:39.38] aaron enters a building: Smokehouse
[2011/10/08, 18:39.38] aaron pays the town 1 Franc as entry fee.
[2011/10/08, 18:39.42] aaron loses 1 Coal and 6 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:39.42] aaron receives 6 Smoked Fishes and 3 Francs.

[2011/10/08, 18:39.58] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain
[2011/10/08, 18:40.30] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:40.30] aaron loses 12570 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:40.30] aaron receives 18855 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:40.45] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:42.14] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:42.18] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:42.18] aaron loses 18856 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:42.18] aaron receives 28284 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:42.20] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:42.50] aaron enters a building: Fish Restaurant
[2011/10/08, 18:42.50] aaron pays the town 1 Franc as entry fee.
[2011/10/08, 18:42.54] aaron loses 12 Smoked Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:42.54] aaron receives 36 Francs.

[2011/10/08, 18:42.57] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:42.59] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:42.59] aaron loses 28284 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:42.59] aaron receives 42426 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:43.00] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle
[2011/10/08, 18:43.02] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:43.05] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:43.05] aaron loses 42426 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.05] aaron receives 63639 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:43.06] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish
[2011/10/08, 18:43.08] aaron pays 1 Franc of interest.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.11] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:43.13] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:43.13] aaron loses 63638 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.13] aaron receives 95457 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.15] Round 5 is finished.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.15] 25 Food are due at the end of the round.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.15] aaron receives 2 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.15] aaron needs to pay 25 Food.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.22] aaron discards 25 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.22] A new ship enters the game: Steel Ship (16)
[2011/10/08, 18:43.22] The town constructs a new special building: Inn (4)

[Round 6]


[2011/10/08, 18:43.22] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:43.27] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:43.30] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:43.30] aaron loses 95434 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.30] aaron receives 143151 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:43.31] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain
[2011/10/08, 18:43.33] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:43.37] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:43.37] aaron loses 143152 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.37] aaron receives 214728 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:43.38] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:43.39] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:43.41] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:43.41] aaron loses 214728 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.41] aaron receives 322092 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:43.42] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:43.45] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:43.48] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:43.48] aaron loses 322092 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:43.48] aaron receives 483138 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:43.49] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:44.04] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:44.06] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:44.06] aaron loses 483138 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:44.06] aaron receives 724707 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:44.07] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle
[2011/10/08, 18:44.13] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:44.15] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:44.15] aaron loses 724706 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:44.15] aaron receives 1087059 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:44.16] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish
[2011/10/08, 18:44.18] aaron pays 1 Franc of interest.
[2011/10/08, 18:44.20] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:44.22] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:44.22] aaron loses 1087060 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:44.22] aaron receives 1630590 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:44.23] Round 6 is finished.
[2011/10/08, 18:44.23] 30 Food are due at the end of the round.
[2011/10/08, 18:44.23] aaron needs to pay 30 Food.
[2011/10/08, 18:44.31] aaron discards 30 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:44.31] A new ship enters the game: Steel Ship (20)
[2011/10/08, 18:44.31] The town constructs a new standard building: Wharf (14)

[Round 7]


[2011/10/08, 18:44.31] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:44.57] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:44.59] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:44.59] aaron loses 1630560 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:44.59] aaron receives 2445840 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:45.00] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain
[2011/10/08, 18:45.02] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:45.05] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:45.05] aaron loses 2445840 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:45.05] aaron receives 3668760 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:45.05] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:45.08] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:45.12] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:45.12] aaron loses 3668760 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:45.12] aaron receives 5503140 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:45.13] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay
[2011/10/08, 18:45.15] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:45.18] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:45.18] aaron loses 5503140 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:45.18] aaron receives 8254710 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:45.19] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc
[2011/10/08, 18:45.23] aaron buys for 6 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:45.26] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:45.26] aaron loses 8254710 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:45.26] aaron receives 12382065 Fishes.

[2011/10/08, 18:45.27] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle
[2011/10/08, 18:45.30] aaron sells for 2 Francs: Fisherman's Hut (4)
[2011/10/08, 18:45.34] aaron enters a building: Fisherman's Hut
[2011/10/08, 18:45.34] aaron loses 12382064 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:45.34] aaron receives 18573096 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:46.40] aaron buys for 4 Francs: Inn (4)

[2011/10/08, 18:46.42] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish
[2011/10/08, 18:46.44] aaron pays 1 Franc of interest.
[2011/10/08, 18:46.50] aaron enters a building: Inn
[2011/10/08, 18:46.59] aaron loses 18573097 Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:46.59] aaron receives 18573097 Smoked Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:47.12] Round 7 is finished.
[2011/10/08, 18:47.12] 35 Food are due at the end of the round.
[2011/10/08, 18:47.12] aaron needs to pay 35 Food.
[2011/10/08, 18:48.26] aaron discards 16 Smoked Fishes and 3 Francs.
[2011/10/08, 18:48.26] A new ship enters the game: Luxury Liner (30)

[Final Action Phase]

[2011/10/08, 18:48.26] The final action phase has begun!

[2011/10/08, 18:48.35] aaron enters a building: Fish Restaurant
[2011/10/08, 18:48.35] aaron pays the town 1 Smoked Fish as entry fee.
[2011/10/08, 18:48.48] aaron loses 18573080 Smoked Fishes.
[2011/10/08, 18:48.48] aaron receives 55719240 Francs.
[2011/10/08, 18:48.58] aaron returns 5 loans.
[2011/10/08, 18:49.04] The game is over! Final scores:
[2011/10/08, 18:49.04] 1. aaron (55719215|0|4+0|0) = 55719219


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quick question about a rule i must not be understanding, do you not have to re-enter a building to use it? you can't just stay there and use the action again right, so how are you guys using the fishing building every turn, or perhaps I'm missing it but when you sell it you take your dude out maybe? what am i missing?
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quick question about a rule i must not be understanding, do you not have to re-enter a building to use it? you can't just stay there and use the action again right, so how are you guys using the fishing building every turn, or perhaps I'm missing it but when you sell it you take your dude out maybe? what am i missing?


When you sell or buy a building all player pawns are removed from the building.
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Isn't there a special building that grants the player an additional 'final action' at the end of the game?
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Congrats... You have figured out how to game the game. It's kind of like buying every possible number combination to win the lottery.
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Congrats... You have figured out how to game the game. It's kind of like buying every possible number combination to win the lottery.


not to mention IT DOES NOT WORK, since it is considering pretty much a single-player game, with zero interaction, AND a very specific order of buildings available...
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BisXcoito wrote:
Sapper_SB wrote:
Congrats... You have figured out how to game the game. It's kind of like buying every possible number combination to win the lottery.


not to mention IT DOES NOT WORK, since it is considering pretty much a single-player game, with zero interaction, AND a very specific order of buildings available...


Of course it works. The proof is in the posts above. Moveover, the single-player version is not an inferior version of the game; it's a vital part of the official rules. Furthermore, so what if people took some liberty with the game's random elements in order to gain a deeper understanding of the game's boundary conditions and limitations? Not everyone wants to play the game the way you do. Many people enjoy the single-player version for various reasons, and a subset of those enjoy optimizing play within the confines of the rules that matter to them (i.e. the gameplay rules, not the setup rules).
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isn't rigging the random setup (which is one of the main reasons it is a great game, due to its infinite replayability) like playing a completely different game?

I've got no quarrel with people wanting to play it like this. I just can't agree they're playing Le Havre at all.
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Imagine he drew these three buildings from a totally randomized deck of cards.

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BisXcoito wrote:
isn't rigging the random setup (which is one of the main reasons it is a great game, due to its infinite replayability) like playing a completely different game?

I've got no quarrel with people wanting to play it like this. I just can't agree they're playing Le Havre at all.


He's really just optimizing for the sake of itself, but it is possible and that's the hallmark of a good optimization scheme.

I think it's really interesting.

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spread sheet kind of interesting Le Havre off the list...
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The lesson to me is don't ever underestimate the number of ways that board games can bring joy into the world!!
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