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What's the value of a pristine unpunched copy of Avalon Hill's Machiavelli (2nd ed.)?
I've found a copy for 145 $ but... it's a LOT OF MONEY.
 
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If we weren't so far apart, I'd trade or sell mine to you for considerably less. It is still mint, but it has been carefully punched and bagged but never played. I am having trouble figuring out the dollar value as well, as the selling prices fluctuate from about $50-150 in auctions.
 
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As a matter of interests are first editions worth more? I have a played but good condition copy from 1985 that I might be tempted to sell if the price is right. Mind you, I'm in the UK, so it probably doesn't help you.
 
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I can't speak to worth, but if you like Diplomacy, it is a damn good game. I've got a wall-map version on my office wall next to me as we speak.
 
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I sold an unpunched mint third edition copy on ebay last December for $132 chances are you can score one for less especially if it's punched out. Also, look for copies that don't have the words Avalon Hill or AH in the auction listing on Ebay and chances are you could score one for $60 or less if your patient.
 
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Mmm... considering that I don't use Ebay, I've come across 2 italian guy the offered me Machiavelli.
One is 100% unpunched, in pristine condition, for 80 euro.
The other is punched, but in near mint condition, for 70 euro.
Are these prices (90-100$) foolish for this game? I never played Diplomacy, but I like the idea of interaction, roleplay, etc. Is it very complex? Will it retain/gain value in years?
 
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LuZa wrote:
Mmm... considering that I don't use Ebay, I've come across 2 italian guy the offered me Machiavelli.
One is 100% unpunched, in pristine condition, for 80 euro.
The other is punched, but in near mint condition, for 70 euro.
Are these prices (90-100$) foolish for this game? I never played Diplomacy, but I like the idea of interaction, roleplay, etc. Is it very complex? Will it retain/gain value in years?


Machiavelli has NO role-playing - it's just a variation on the boardgame Diplomacy set during the Italian Rennaisance. It's a little more complicated that Diplomacy since it has an economic system, and some of the pieces have different values. How complicated you find it depends upon what you are used to playing - as Wargames go it's not particularily complicated, as Euro games go it's pretty complicated. Plus it takes a long time to play (4+ hours) and require a LOT of players to work properly (5-7).
 
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Patch1413 wrote:
LuZa wrote:
Mmm... considering that I don't use Ebay, I've come across 2 italian guy the offered me Machiavelli.
One is 100% unpunched, in pristine condition, for 80 euro.
The other is punched, but in near mint condition, for 70 euro.
Are these prices (90-100$) foolish for this game? I never played Diplomacy, but I like the idea of interaction, roleplay, etc. Is it very complex? Will it retain/gain value in years?


Machiavelli has NO role-playing - it's just a variation on the boardgame Diplomacy set during the Italian Rennaisance. It's a little more complicated that Diplomacy since it has an economic system, and some of the pieces have different values. How complicated you find it depends upon what you are used to playing - as Wargames go it's not particularily complicated, as Euro games go it's pretty complicated. Plus it takes a long time to play (4+ hours) and require a LOT of players to work properly (5-7).


Thanks for the insight. I've never played Diplomacy so I don't know. But is Machiavelli worth (in mint/punched condition, 2nd edition) 60 euro, for collecting's sake?
 
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