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I heard somewhere that this is a recent printing of a game that was never released. So even though it looks like it was published in 1935, it wasn't. Anyone know for sure?
 
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Re:Is this authentic?
Kinda seems like a hoax to me. Try doing an internet search for this? It comes up with a blog or two and then links to bad pages (404 Not Found), Porn sites, and eBay auction pages...though if you search eBay, nothing comes up either...

 
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I also searched on two different search engines the publishers name. Nothing. The only match is a link right here to BGG.

Even if it was an old company, long out of business...I find it hard to believe there's nothing about them on the internet. I mean jeez...there's websites about EVERYTHING...

Until some really good evidence surfaces, I think the tentative conclusion has to be "hoax".

 
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Hmmm....okay....found someone actually auctioning this game...still seems suspicious....

http://www.everything-gardening.com/items/3953499611.html
 
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Did a yahoo map search of the supposed address of this company... The Hudson Brothers Publishing Co., 127 42nd St, Buffalo New York. No such adress exists. Okay, maybe things have changed since the 1930's, but...changed street names? Hmm...still leads to the fishiness of the whole thing.
 
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...even though it looks like it was published in 1935, it wasn't. Anyone know for sure?

Well, the only pictures available (one here on BGG and one on at the above listed auction site) show copies in surprisingly good condition for a supposedly 70 year old game.
 
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Re:Is this authentic?
Robrob (#463324),

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...

The above link is the the eBay auction of this game, you will notice that the person who sold the game is no longer registered and no feedback was left regarding that auction.

Dunno if its real or not, sounds shady.

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jonogo (#463931),

Yeah, the buyer isn't selling or biding on anything either. Since the pictures in the auction seem to be ones previously posted on another website, I smell a rat.
 
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jonogo (#463931),

I've got the 2nd game in the series: "Whitey's on Wallstreet" (and he's stealing all my money)
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FYI
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...
 
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It would seem that the only question here is of the date of printing. It seems from the existing pictures that the game does exist, but the question is whether it was actually printed at the time claimed.

The picture I uploaded was from an eBay seller, who I asked permission to upload the picture. I haven't seen seen this game to make an assessment as to whether or not it is "old".
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Here's another one: http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...
 
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Believe it or not, it is authentic. I found a copy a few years ago, and if it's a "recent" printing, they did a heck of a job replicating the "faded and musty as your granny's attic" appearance and smell.
I see them pop up rarely, so evidently it wasn't published long, or existing copies were disposed of when "Black Americana" was no longer desirable - and downright embarrassing (and of course before it became "collectible").
Evidently the Hudson Brothers Publishing Company didn't last long. As for the address in Buffalo, it's not unusual for streets to change over 70+ years.
As "un-pc" as such things are today, remember that stereotypes abounded in the late 1800s and early-to-mid 1900s. No less a major studio than Warner Brothers produced very racially stereotypical cartoons until they were essentially outlawed in the late 1960s.
I've only known of a couple other people who owned DITMP, so if it's a "recent publication," the publisher has a truly lousy marketing campaign! Why not claim to have found 1,000 of them in an abandoned warehouse, and sell 'em quick for a couple hundred apiece?
So, unless someone spent a LOT of time and money creating these things and making them "look and smell really old" then decided to sell one every couple years to make it "seem" rare, I'd say it's legit.
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Graymalkin2001 wrote:
I see them pop up rarely, so evidently it wasn't published long, or existing copies were disposed of when "Black Americana" was no longer desirable - and downright embarrassing (and of course before it became "collectible").


Collectible to whom? I wouldn't allow it in my home.

[edit] The fact you registered only today, and posted nothing but this, makes me wonder about your identity and your motivation. I won't be back to discuss it though, as the more traffic such threads get, the more sick people are rewarded.
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Sphere wrote:
Graymalkin2001 wrote:
I see them pop up rarely, so evidently it wasn't published long, or existing copies were disposed of when "Black Americana" was no longer desirable - and downright embarrassing (and of course before it became "collectible").


Collectible to whom? I wouldn't allow it in my home.


Well, in the past I've collected all sorts of bizarre, racist and paranoid materials, largely as documentation that they existed. It's way too easy for people to forget the past when the documentation disappears.
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There is probably no category of object that someone, somewhere, doesn't collect. As "politically incorrect" as some things may be to the "politically correct" types, there are collectors. "Americana" and "Black Americana" collectors exist. Why? Beats me. Same reason some people collect rubber bands, paper clips or magazines.

As to this game in particular, I was given a copy. I wasn't thrilled about it, nor did I freak out and soil myself. Just sort of, "Hmmm. Okay. Thanks." My personal "collecting" tastes involve really nice guitars.

Anyway, the games DO exist. And they WERE designed to "look old." Actually, after doing some extensive research (I made a phone call), I found they're not made in large number (and sell for $20-$25), so when they pop up, some folks think they've got a really rare item and slap a hefty price tag on em (a friend told me he came across one in an antique shop that they were asking $300 for - no doubt some chump would fall for it!).

Why would someone make something like this? Who knows. Why would someone want something like this? I dunno . . . maybe to alleviate boredom at the laundramat while waiting for their KKK robes to finish the spin cycle.

Anyway, that explains why they're semi-"rare": not the kind of thing you'll see next to Hannah Montana-opoly or Harry Potter Clue in the game section of Wal-Mart.

As for racial stereotypes, well, wonder what they'll be saying about rap 50 years from now?
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Sphere wrote:
Graymalkin2001 wrote:
I see them pop up rarely, so evidently it wasn't published long, or existing copies were disposed of when "Black Americana" was no longer desirable - and downright embarrassing (and of course before it became "collectible").


Collectible to whom? I wouldn't allow it in my home.

[edit] The fact you registered only today, and posted nothing but this, makes me wonder about your identity and your motivation. I won't be back to discuss it though, as the more traffic such threads get, the more sick people are rewarded.



Paranoid AND judgemental! All right!

Identity? Malkin. Gray Malkin. Motivation? Googled a game, and joined a discussion.
Further explanation required some someone like you? Fat chance.

Now, go lie down before you hurt yourself.

PS:
I could REALLY get creative in pondering just why YOU joined such a discussion!
 
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