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Just wondering if anyone else thinks the show is friggin' hilarious. I finally got to watch it last night and will definitely be watching it weekly! It's one of the funniest shows I've seen in quite a while.

My favorite line from the show:

"I thought you had your vagina removed when you had your hysterectomy."

"No, that was my uterus. A uterus is different from a vagina."


Anyways, I'd better get back to work here in my office; or is it a workspace? I think it's a workspace.
 
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I saw the first two episodes, missed the one last night. I was very disappointed after having loved the original BBC show enough to purchase it on DVD. This version has its moments, but I can't stop comparing it to the original.
 
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Yes -- although Steve Carell will never be another Ricky Gervais, the show is still pretty cool. The only thing I really don't like about it is their replacement for Gareth...

...and yeah, I know I'm being a big snob.

I sorta feel like the reviewer does here: http://www.slate.com/id/2115177

However, we've definitely got our season pass on TiVo.

 
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Why, oh why, oh why, oh why do American TV networks feel that the American population is unable to watch a program in another accent?

If I were in America I would refuse to watch the remake on principle.

Mind you, here in the U.K. I have seen some Canadian and American kids' cartoon shows dubbed with English accents, when in Australia they are in the original.

Maybe the smaller the country the more able we are to accept different accents etc. As a consequence I think we have it the best, because we see the best of American, British, Canadian, Australian..whatever English language TV comes out, whereas you Americans only get to see American shows or second rate American remakes of British shows.
 
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I don't know, I've never seen the original, so I still think this one is hilarious!
 
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OzGamer wrote:
Why, oh why, oh why, oh why do American TV networks feel that the American population is unable to watch a program in another accent?



We did the same thing to "coupling" which was hilarious on the BBC, but was a complete bomb when we remade it. It is sad.

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OzGamer wrote:
Why, oh why, oh why, oh why do American TV networks feel that the American population is unable to watch a program in another accent?

If I were in America I would refuse to watch the remake on principle.

Mind you, here in the U.K. I have seen some Canadian and American kids' cartoon shows dubbed with English accents, when in Australia they are in the original.

Maybe the smaller the country the more able we are to accept different accents etc. As a consequence I think we have it the best, because we see the best of American, British, Canadian, Australian..whatever English language TV comes out, whereas you Americans only get to see American shows or second rate American remakes of British shows.


Well that's a really silly set of assumptions. Firstly, if we in the States wish to watch undiluted UK humor, we have always had the Public Broadcasting System able and willing to procure such shows (along with UK drama and programming from various other cultures as availability and demand allow). Those of us lately who have access to it enjoy (if that's our thing) BBC America and all the programming that THAT outlet provides.

As to why US networks make the business decisions that they do? I guarantee you, it's ALL business. The networks here pay the production companies to provide content. They don't generally go after pre-existing material for series television, and would you really want them dictating to other countries how to produce their shows, humorous or otherwise? Be damned thankful that my country sticks to enforcing its brand of practices and standards locally, and doesn't chop thirteen minutes out of every half hour of YOUR programming to promote fresh breath, clean teeth, and soft toilet tissue. Thankfully, that's something the rest of the world gets to do for itself.
 
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one of the main guys from the orginal british series "the office " is playing arthur dent in the new hitchhikers guide film ...

 
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I don't know, I've never seen the original


Holy crap, Chad.

Go somewhere and rent it, put it on Netflix, whatever, however you do it, it doesn't matter -- as long as the British "Office" gets in your grubby mitts TODAY.

That's another thing missing from the American version -- the original has all those excruciatingly long, punch-in-the-gut embarrassed silences that seem to stretch for hours after David Brent says something particularly racist/sexist/classless.

The series has a whole Victorian romance feel (again, it's missing from the American version) where a glance means everything and a casual word speaks much more than it usually would. The Tim/Dawn relationship seems to mean a lot more.

My wife and I sat down and went through the entire first season in one sitting -- it's that good. (Of course now I'm probably talking it up too much and you'll dislike it.)

Oh, and Coupling is brilliant. Just goddamn brilliant TV. Like "Friends", except funny.
 
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That's another thing missing from the American version -- the original has all those excruciatingly long, punch-in-the-gut embarrassed silences that seem to stretch for hours after David Brent says something particularly racist/sexist/classless.



This is what I liked about "The Family Guy". They do the same long silences after certain comments. Seth Green is the king.


 
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Okay, so it's not as bad as the American Red Dwarf pilot, but it's not as good as the original. If I hadn't seen the originals then I probably would have loved it. Unfortunately, it just comes across as a pale imitation.
 
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Oh, and Coupling is brilliant. Just goddamn brilliant TV. Like "Friends", except funny.


For some reason, someone sent me two seasons worth of Coupling along with a game I won in an Ebay auction. I watched a few episodes and threw the DVDs away. I didn't laugh a single time, and figured the guy had just sent me some garbage he didn't want.
 
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The show's not bad, but sometimes it feels a little like "spontaneous dento-hydroplosion."

 
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Madd_Mugsy wrote:
The show's not bad, but sometimes it feels a little like "spontaneous dento-hydroplosion."



Being a longtime sufferer of Countchocolitus, I have realized the value of health care in the workplace.

I love the BBC series, and although some things seem to miss the mark with the new series, I thought last weeks episode involving ethnic tolerance in the workplace was quite funny. Steve doesn't quite have the ability to provoke pity like Ricky does in the original series, but just the same, I am watching the new series and enjoying it.

I really like Coupling as well, you should have sent the dvd's to me!

We are really into copying British tv shows these days. I don't think the cable channel TLC would exist if it weren't for British tv.

Still though, we gladly offer you The Simpsons and South Park and 33 different flavors of CSI and Law & Order.
 
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I really like Coupling as well, you should have sent the dvd's to me!


I figure anyone passing judgement on Coupling must be forced to watch "Inferno" first:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/coupling/episodes/s1ep4.shtml

The "porn manifesto" alone is one of TV's great moments, IMHO.
 
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I've watched both versions of the Office, and, I must say, I find them both equally funny. While it's true that the BBC version had it's brilliance in those long, excruciatingly painful silences that had me laughing out loud, a little of that goes a long way--and, in the production tradition of the BBC, there were just enough episodes filmed where it didn't become an overused gag. It lasted just about long enough. The American version is funny in a different way--it's got the same general style, but it's of course a bit more punched up gag-for-gag (they're aiming for 20 episodes a season for eight seasons, not 6 episodes for three). I’m also mercifully glad that there’s no laugh track. I, personally, would rather have had an "inspiration" from the BBC series than an official remake, but there you go.

I'm also a big fan of Steve Carrell, which might bias me some.

As far as Coupling is concerned, I'll have to agree with Chad. I watched on BBC America, and while it had its moments, I didn't find it to be consistently funny, and found it to be a vehicle for those who claim that no comedy is lowbrow as long as it's done with an English accent. I much prefer Father Ted and People Like Us. Why isn’t People Like Us out on DVD?
 
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MisterCranky wrote:
OzGamer wrote:
Why, oh why, oh why, oh why do American TV networks feel that the American population is unable to watch a program in another accent?

If I were in America I would refuse to watch the remake on principle.

Mind you, here in the U.K. I have seen some Canadian and American kids' cartoon shows dubbed with English accents, when in Australia they are in the original.

Maybe the smaller the country the more able we are to accept different accents etc. As a consequence I think we have it the best, because we see the best of American, British, Canadian, Australian..whatever English language TV comes out, whereas you Americans only get to see American shows or second rate American remakes of British shows.


Well that's a really silly set of assumptions. Firstly, if we in the States wish to watch undiluted UK humor, we have always had the Public Broadcasting System able and willing to procure such shows (along with UK drama and programming from various other cultures as availability and demand allow). Those of us lately who have access to it enjoy (if that's our thing) BBC America and all the programming that THAT outlet provides.

As to why US networks make the business decisions that they do? I guarantee you, it's ALL business. The networks here pay the production companies to provide content. They don't generally go after pre-existing material for series television, and would you really want them dictating to other countries how to produce their shows, humorous or otherwise? Be damned thankful that my country sticks to enforcing its brand of practices and standards locally, and doesn't chop thirteen minutes out of every half hour of YOUR programming to promote fresh breath, clean teeth, and soft toilet tissue. Thankfully, that's something the rest of the world gets to do for itself.

Gosh - I didn't mean to be controversial or offensive. I just meant why doesn't NBC just buy the original The Office and show it on network TV in the U.S.? A lot of people would probably enjoy it.
 
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OzGamer wrote:
Gosh - I didn't mean to be controversial or offensive. I just meant why doesn't NBC just buy the original The Office and show it on network TV in the U.S.? A lot of people would probably enjoy it.


What's wrong with controversy? And who takes offense at a discussion like this, anyway? Not me. Next time you're in town we'll play TV Wars.
 
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Loved the BBC version and finally decided to peek at the NBC version this week. What a train wreck. I agree with the Slate article; The Office is/was Ricky Gervis, period. Without him there's really no point. thumbsdown

My wife and I wondered why, in this era of 800 channels and instantaneous distribution, did we even need to remake The Office? Didn't everyone see it already?

And though I shake my head at lame attempts to import Brit humor, I can think of at least three in the past that went on to be hits, so there is an economic precedent:

All in the Family
Sanford & Son
Three's Company (believe it or not)

Note that Alf, A-Team, Knight Rider, Dukes of Hazzard, and Diff'rnt Strokes were not imports. laugh

 
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Trainwreck of trainwrecks: the attempt to remake Fawlty Towers... with Bea Arthur:

http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0084973/combined
 
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Trainwreck of trainwrecks: the attempt to remake Fawlty Towers... with Bea Arthur


Yowch! I had no idea. When will it be available on DVD? gulp
Maybe some time after the Star Wars Holiday Special is on DVD.
 
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Whoever thought Steve Carrel was the right pick musta been smoking crack.


Steve Carrel is the main reason I like the show!
 
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Steve Carrel is the main reason I like the show!


Steve Carell is great as a correspondent on The Daily Show but keeps getting stuck in roles that seem really out of character for him. It's like he's acting at gunpoint or something. He's one of the reasons I couldn't make it through more than about 10 minutes of Anchorman shake, where he played an utterly un-funny weatherman. But then again, I'm not the 14 year-old male demographic that most Hollywood content is created for. sauron
 
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Trainwreck of trainwrecks: the attempt to remake Fawlty Towers... with Bea Arthur:


But what about John Larroquette?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0182623/

While no one can replace, imitate, or even come within coattail-grabbing distance to John Cleese, I'll have to admit a certain imagination with Dan Fielding in the role...he could easily replicate the frustrated, egotistical, pratfalling innkeeper. Whether "replicate" equals "inspired comedy" is left to the devices of the student.

Obviously, no one watched this, so I've never seen it.
 
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Don't even get me STARTED on Anchorman. So what happened after 4 minutes. Any good?


I thought Anchorman was hilarious! Hmm, looks like my taste in comedy is a lot different then you guys'.
 
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