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What kind of game is this? Bidding? Is it easy to teach to non gamers or is there alot to remember and a lot of rules?
 
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Re:what is it like
oboman2002 (#469617),


It is unlike any game I have played before and it is not for non-gamers. Do not try to teach this to non-gamers you need to transform someone into a gamer before you try to teach them this sucker.
 
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Drewcooter (#469619),
o ok. THanks for your input
 
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Re:what is it like
Obo,

It sounds like your fiance is a gamer. Any game that takes 3 playings to get is not for a non-gamer. Their eyes will glaze over and they will lose interest during that first game or even the explanation of how to play.

Don't get me wrong I think GOA is a solid game and worth learning, you just have to know your audience.

Game On!
 
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The above was meant for Daren not Obo. Sorry!
 
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oboman2002 (#469617),

Rules are well written... but as you can see from the very many number of questions and people misplaying, quite complex, and fiddly at times. I have explained this one three or four times now to fellow gamers, and it is not easy to hold in your head and visualize... not for non-gamers.
 
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dcjackso (#474556),

1st round, the flag HAS to be worth at least 4.. since the action can be used to get 4 ducats.. and also has value in the next auction.. I will take it for 2-3 every time.

You point out that the word 'fiddly' has become fiddly. Hmm, perhaps true. I used it to mean there are a lot of little extra rules used to properly define what and when players can act... for example

- Hand limits on cards and when to pitch cards if you will exceed that limit
- What to do during bidding marker placement if there is no tile next to the last marker placed
- The opening bid of 0 by the bid-marker owner
- The differentiation between cards which are part of the action versus in addition to the action
- The blue tiles during the B-Group and how they interact
- Saving an extra action, but not saving multiple extra actions
- Score for the 6th card in a set (not that I will ever see that)
- etc

Mind you, I love Goa and will play it any time, and while I agree the rules are fairly integrated, they are not intuitive in many cases.
 
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Re:what is it like
dklx3 (#480976),

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1st round, the flag HAS to be worth at least 4.. since the action can be used to get 4 ducats.. and also has value in the next auction.. I will take it for 2-3 every time.


It's not so linear as it seems..... Mind you that winning the flag auction for 4 gold will leave the winner with 6 gold.
If that will have as a consequence the impossibility to win some precious tiles in the following auctions, the flag it's valued more its effective worth (in relation to auctioned goods).

 
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Blackpope (#481005),

Agreed with the non-linear remark.. but 2-3 will be too cheap most of the time.
 
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