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Hind Sight is 20/20. Anyone not sleeve this game and regret that decision?

Maybe you've had a positive experience?
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SixtyWATZ wrote:
Hind Sight is 20/20. Anyone not sleeve this game and regret that decision?

Maybe you've had a positive experience?


If your this worried just sleeve it.

I didn't sleeve, and I don't regret the decision.
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Haven't gotten to play nearly as much as I would like but after my 30-40 plays so far, nope, no regrets :3 Never actually played with sleeved cards for anything but it seems like it wouldn't be very good for shuffling? Anyhow I like the feel of the cards and don't think I'll be sleeving anytime soon.
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have not sleeved yet, played a lot, no damage so far, will sleeve ASAP though, I'm afraid of spills mostly and that the sweat might make the cards "limp"
 
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Being worried and conducting actions are separate trains of thought. I worry that my family and friends might die any day, but I don't wrap them in huge bubble wrap. If someone had really screwed the pooch by not sleeving I'd want to know.
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takoyaki wrote:
Haven't gotten to play nearly as much as I would like but after my 30-40 plays so far, nope, no regrets :3 Never actually played with sleeved cards for anything but it seems like it wouldn't be very good for shuffling? Anyhow I like the feel of the cards and don't think I'll be sleeving anytime soon.



I agree with this - I've been on a sleeving kick, but I really like the way the Yomi cards feel so I won't likely sleeve them. They also seem like they will wear better than cards like those in Dominion.
One other thing about sleeving the cards. I sleeve Dominion and Game of Thrones LCG because I don't want some cards to wear out faster than others, and I want new cards to match the old cards. In the case of Yomi, all of the cards in a deck will wear out at the same rate (assuming they do wear out). So again, I'm not as worried about it. On the other hand, the game was quite expensive....
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Didn't sleeve them -- I am not a fan of sleeves -- and it's working out just fine for me. The way I look at it, if there's a game I play SO MUCH that we destroy the cards, it's worth picking up a second copy.
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rwjohnson wrote:
takoyaki wrote:
Haven't gotten to play nearly as much as I would like but after my 30-40 plays so far, nope, no regrets :3 Never actually played with sleeved cards for anything but it seems like it wouldn't be very good for shuffling? Anyhow I like the feel of the cards and don't think I'll be sleeving anytime soon.



I agree with this - I've been on a sleeving kick, but I really like the way the Yomi cards feel so I won't likely sleeve them. They also seem like they will wear better than cards like those in Dominion.
One other thing about sleeving the cards. I sleeve Dominion and Game of Thrones LCG because I don't want some cards to wear out faster than others, and I want new cards to match the old cards. In the case of Yomi, all of the cards in a deck will wear out at the same rate (assuming they do wear out). So again, I'm not as worried about it. On the other hand, the game was quite expensive....


Yes I do the same thing based on new cards coming into play. Huge help thanks.
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takoyaki wrote:
it seems like it wouldn't be very good for shuffling?


As opposed to how good the Yomi cards are at shuffling by themselves?

I haven't sleeved any cards for any game yet, but I've been thinking about it for this game. The card quality just isn't up to the amount of times I have to shuffle the cards.
 
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unreal41683 wrote:
takoyaki wrote:
it seems like it wouldn't be very good for shuffling?


As opposed to how good the Yomi cards are at shuffling by themselves?

I haven't sleeved any cards for any game yet, but I've been thinking about it for this game. The card quality just isn't up to the amount of times I have to shuffle the cards.


Really? I think the quality of the cards is great. But then again I've only played a few times so maybe they're not as good as I think.
 
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unreal41683 wrote:
takoyaki wrote:
it seems like it wouldn't be very good for shuffling?


As opposed to how good the Yomi cards are at shuffling by themselves?


Are you implying that Yomi decks don't shuffle well? That has not been my experience at all. Whereas the only time I had sleeved cards (Dominion) they were a huge pain.

I use a cut and riffle shuffle method, which seems to do the job nicely and haven't had any damage issues yet after about 15-20 plays spread throughout the decks.
 
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Really? I think the quality of the cards is great. But then again I've only played a few times so maybe they're not as good as I think.


I haven't played that many times either, but the quality of my decks is pretty much on par with a set of playing cards that is "included free" with a set of crappy poker chips.

The decks I'm specifically thinking of are the two decks that came with my 200 poker chips with a case for $12 from Kmart.

http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_004W705074110001P?p...
 
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unreal41683 wrote:
rwjohnson wrote:
Really? I think the quality of the cards is great. But then again I've only played a few times so maybe they're not as good as I think.


I haven't played that many times either, but the quality of my decks is pretty much on par with a set of playing cards that is "included free" with a set of crappy poker chips.

The decks I'm specifically thinking of are the two decks that came with my 200 poker chips with a case for $12 from Kmart.

http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_004W705074110001P?p...


Playing cards are a huge step up from the common cardstock used in most card games and board games in my experience. Yomi being on par with playing cards is basically saying they are better than pretty much all the competition.
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Maybe you don't understand how bad these (playing) cards were. After 5 minutes with my cousins they were splitting.

I think that the Pandemic,TTR cards, and Arkham Horror cards held up much better than these.

Edit for clarification.
 
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unreal41683 wrote:
Maybe you don't understand how bad these (playing) cards were. After 5 minutes with my cousins they were splitting.

I think that the Pandemic,TTR cards, and Arkham Horror cards held up much better than these.

Edit for clarification.


Ah, I'm comparing Yomi to Bicycle cards. Those seem pretty good quality to me. Yomi cards are basically the same hight when stacked up next to a bicycle deck.
 
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A buddy and I had repeated plays with two of the decks. After some time, both decks developed a bow in the cards where they can be "popped" back and forth by pressing up and down on the center of the deck. I'm not talking about a simple arcing of the cards, where an inverse bend of the deck could fix it. The deck literally "pops" up and down by pressing up or down on the center of the deck. I hope that makes sense, because that's the best I can describe it.

I don't know if it was moisture from our hands, or humidity levels, or something else. But I do know I'm sleeving all of them now, so the same fate doesn't befall the other 8 decks. This is the first game I've ever sleeved.
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Most played deck would have had 15 games, all on the rubber play mats. No damage. Cards are very nice to handle.
 
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A buddy and I had repeated plays with two of the decks. After some time, both decks developed a bow in the cards where they can be "popped" back and forth by pressing up and down on the center of the deck. I'm not talking about a simple arcing of the cards, where an inverse bend of the deck could fix it. The deck literally "pops" up and down by pressing up or down on the center of the deck. I hope that makes sense, because that's the best I can describe it.

I don't know if it was moisture from our hands, or humidity levels, or something else. But I do know I'm sleeving all of them now, so the same fate doesn't befall the other 8 decks. This is the first game I've ever sleeved.


Sounds like you're shuffling wrong. If you bow playing cards to do a riffle shuffle, you should afterwards form a bridge to remove the bow you put in during the shuffle. That's why people do the bridge, not just cause it looks cool. At least this is my understanding. See below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh8iMZY4Nb4&feature=channel
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Bridger wrote:
unreal41683 wrote:
takoyaki wrote:
it seems like it wouldn't be very good for shuffling?


As opposed to how good the Yomi cards are at shuffling by themselves?


Are you implying that Yomi decks don't shuffle well? That has not been my experience at all. Whereas the only time I had sleeved cards (Dominion) they were a huge pain.

I use a cut and riffle shuffle method, which seems to do the job nicely and haven't had any damage issues yet after about 15-20 plays spread throughout the decks.


I do love shuffling sleeves though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-kcRIe39_M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjLp5wh5y90&NR=1
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Sounds like you're shuffling wrong. If you bow playing cards to do a riffle shuffle, you should afterwards form a bridge to remove the bow you put in during the shuffle.

I'm not shuffling wrong. Well ok, I'm not shuffling any differently than I do with any other card game I own (Dominion, Magic, etc...), and none of my other card games suffer the same problem.

What I was trying to explain in my post was that the cards aren't just bowed along one axis. If that was the problem, then counter-bowing them the other way (i.e. - a "bridge") would fix them.

The cards have 2 possible states now -- "popped up" so the card edges all lay flat on the table but the center is lifted slightly off, or "popped down" so the center of the card is on the table but the edges are all lifted slightly off. They cannot lay perfectly flat now.

Anyway it's not a huge deal, but I'm sure as hell sleeving the rest of them so it doesn't happen to them as well.


 
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I see what you are saying now Chris. That is odd.
 
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SixtyWATZ wrote:


Amongst cardmen, this style of shuffling is known as 'Greek' shuffling.

Another method of shuffling that does not bend the cards is 'Hundu' shuffling. Quite similar to a running cut, small portions of cards are taken from the top of the deck, to fall in to dealing positon in the dealing hand (the dealing hand tends to be the opposite of the main hand for most players).

Yeah, I know a lot about shuffling cards (see far right microbadge).

 
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AdrianPHague wrote:
SixtyWATZ wrote:


Amongst cardmen, this style of shuffling is known as 'Greek' shuffling.

Another method of shuffling that does not bend the cards is 'Hundu' shuffling. Quite similar to a running cut, small portions of cards are taken from the top of the deck, to fall in to dealing positon in the dealing hand (the dealing hand tends to be the opposite of the main hand for most players).

Yeah, I know a lot about shuffling cards (see far right microbadge).



Ah, Greek Shuffle. I always get that confused with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtInWH6Ody8

The Hundu shuffle is great, it's one of my favorite magic tricks to use on children and simple people. Have that individual pick their card and put it on top of the deck. Then do the Hundu shuffle but pinch the cards tightly to create 2 spacings...

1) The Cards your moving and

2) The Selected card.

3) Ask the person to say stop and sneakily move the card to the top.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha_YXOb0hDg

 
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Happened to me too. If I bend it back it kind of stops, but it's noticeable that it makes a clicking sound when you push down. Kind of like a snapple cap.

Only when they are stacked together. Unnoticeable really on individual cards.

Does not affect gameplay at all.

Cards are great quality, and I'm glad I started playing this one right away instead of waiting for sleeves. Worked out great.
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SixtyWATZ wrote:
Happened to me too. If I bend it back it kind of stops, but it's noticeable that it makes a clicking sound when you push down. Kind of like a snapple cap.

Yes, exactly! Great description. I agree it's not a big deal since it doesn't affect gameplay. The audible "popping" is very odd though. I'm still sleeving mine though, just in case.
 
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