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Kelsey Rinella
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I'm not normally a reader of the Anonymous website, but Google reader helpfully directs me to other stuff it thinks I might like, and this is today's gem:

AnonNews.org wrote:

Open Letter to Westboro Baptist Church

AN OPEN LETTER FROM ANONYMOUS

February 16, 2011

TO THE CONGREGANTS OF WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH:

We, the collective super-consciousness known as ANONYMOUS - the Voice of Free Speech & the Advocate of the People - have long heard you issue your venomous statements of hatred, and we have witnessed your flagrant and absurd displays of inimitable bigotry and intolerant fanaticism. We have always regarded you and your ilk as an assembly of graceless sociopaths and maniacal chauvinists & religious zealots, however benign, who act out for the sake of attention & in the name of religion.
Being such aggressive proponents for the Freedom of Speech & Freedom of Information as we are, we have hitherto allowed you to continue preaching your benighted gospel of hatred and your theatrical exhibitions of, not only your fascist views, but your utter lack of Christ-like attributes. You have condemned the men and women who serve, fight, and perish in the armed forces of your nation; you have prayed for and celebrated the deaths of young children, who are without fault; you have stood outside the United States National Holocaust Museum, condemning the men, women, and children who, despite their innocence, were annihilated by a tyrannical embodiment of fascism and unsubstantiated repugnance. Rather than allowing the deceased some degree of peace and respect, you instead choose to torment, harass, and assault those who grieve.
Your demonstrations and your unrelenting cascade of disparaging slurs, unfounded judgments, and prejudicial innuendos, which apparently apply to every individual numbered amongst the race of Man - except for yourselves - has frequently crossed the line which separates Freedom of Speech from deliberately utilizing the same tactics and methods of intimidation and mental & emotional abuse that have been previously exploited and employed by tyrants and dictators, fascists and terrorist organizations throughout history.

ANONYMOUS cannot abide this behavior any longer. The time for us to be idle spectators in your inhumane treatment of fellow Man has reached its apex, and we shall now be moved to action. Thus, we give you a warning: Cease & desist your protest campaign in the year 2011, return to your homes in Kansas, & close your public Web sites.
Should you ignore this warning, you will meet with the vicious retaliatory arm of ANONYMOUS: We will target your public Websites, and the propaganda & detestable doctrine that you promote will be eradicated; the damage incurred will be irreversible, and neither your institution nor your congregation will ever be able to fully recover. It is in your best interest to comply now, while the option to do so is still being offered, because we will not relent until you cease the conduction & promotion of all your bigoted operations & doctrines.

The warning has been given. What happens from here shall be determined by you.



WE ARE ANONYMOUS.
WE ARE LEGION.
WE DO NOT FORGIVE.
WE DO NOT FORGET.
EXPECT US.



My first thought was that anybody could have written it, and so I wonder whether there'll now be a spate of "fake" anonymous threats (anonymous Anonymous threats? Words are confusing). If that were to happen, would the "real" Anonymous attack the fakers?

All of that aside, what do y'all think? Years of vigilante justice blockbusters have conditioned my emotional response to tilt toward "Hells, yeah!," but when my rational mind kicks in it just turns off again, having found itself without truly appropriate cognitive tools.
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Matthew M
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This whole conflict is the very definition of "trolls trolling trolls". If anything comes of it, it should be entertaining to watch!
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Meh, I've been trolled by these trolls (KU Law graduation) and I subscribe to either ignoring them or mocking them. But, the cynical part of me also believes that they entire purpose of the organization is not to actually preach anything, but instead is to loudly state inciteful things that fall within the terms of free speech, and wait to sue those who take a swing (tort) or try to stop it at a government level (con. law) -- pure money-grubbing, no religious content.

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It's a hoax?
http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=512

Quote:
Dear Phred Phelps and WBC Phriends,
So we've been hearing a lot about some letter that we supposedly sent you this morning. Problem is,
we're a bit groggy and don't remember sending it. Our best guess is that you he...ard about us on that
newfangled TV of yours and thought we might be some good money for your little church.
You thought you could play with Anonymous. You observed our rising notoriety and thought you
would exploit our paradigm for your own gain. And then, you thought you could lure some idiots into a
honeypot for more IPs to sue.
This is not so foreign to us; as you may have heard, we trade in Lulz. You just do not have enough to
offer right now.
While Anonymous thanks you for your interest, and would certainly like to take a break and have some
fun with you guys, we have more pressing matters to deal with at the moment.
But, we will keep this application on file, and will certainly contact you if any openings become
available in future.
Next time, don't call us. We'll call you.
Additionally, as your "Press Release" failed to understand: When Anonymous says we support free
speech, we mean it. We count Beatrice Hall among our Anonymous forebears: "I disapprove of what
you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Do some among our number hate you and your cynical exploitation of your human rights for monetary
gain? Of course. But the MoralFags are also the first to admit that they are, in fact, your rights to
exploit.
In closing, let us assure you: We are not BAWWWING sissies, nor are we afraid of your false god;
we're just really busy. Stay tuned, and we'll come back to play another day.
We promise.
To the Media: Just because it was posted on AnonNews doesn't mean every single Anon is in
agreement, in fact in this case it doesn't even mean a single Anon is in agreement. Next time, if you
could give us a few minutes to put all our paperwork in order, we'll be sure to let you know what we're
up to. (LOL)
To Anonymous: It's a trap. They've got their ports wide open to harvest IPs to sue. Don't DDoS, and
boycott Operation Westboro. If you really want to continue messing with them, just send them a few
male prostitutes and faxes of goatse. Nothing more.
(Note: This letter was written by more than 20 Anons, at the same time, and none of them were inbred
family members. Unlike that other, shitty "Press Release".)
We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.


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Can anyone point me to more info about Anonymous? I know they are some kind of collective, but how do they decide who, how and when to take action? Who and how do they decide what gets posted on Anonews? Ultimately, could they be an amazing expression of democracy or is there a Borg Queen somewhere who could become an internet dictator?
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Greendan wrote:
Can anyone point me to more info about Anonymous? I know they are some kind of collective, but how do they decide who, how and when to take action? Who and how do they decide what gets posted on Anonews? Ultimately, could they be an amazing expression of democracy or is there a Borg Queen somewhere who could become an internet dictator?


This may help you: http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=542

On anonnews, anyone can post there, it's not censored, and the most popular posts climb to the main page.
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Quote:
Anonymous vs. Westboro Baptist?


Rooting for injuries on both sides.
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Boing-boing has a good article about it, looks like WBC is trolling Anonymous
http://www.boingboing.net/2011/02/22/westboro-baptist-chu.ht...

There's also a discusion on how Anonymouse functions for those who were wondering
http://www.boingboing.net/2011/02/22/how-anonymous-decide.ht...
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Daniel Barrett
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Well the WBC site has been taken down by Anonymous during this radio discussion.



And the site is still down
http://www.westborobaptistchurch.com/




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