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which one. why? I will probably play with some gamers and some new gamers. I like to have more strategy over luck
 
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Samurai hands down.
 
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Samurai.
 
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I haven't played China, but I would recommend Samuari. I've taught it to many non-gamers and all but 2 (out of 12+) enjoyed it. Samuari was one of the first german games I bougth and remains a favorite to this day.

*edit* - I should point out, the 2 didn't hate Samuari, it just wasn't their cup of tea.
 
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To join the chorus - Samurai.
 
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Samurai by far.

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wow samurai is really better than china (kardonial)? Man i think i will have to go with samurai then. So samurai has more strategy than china?
 
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Probably not, it is just more fun to play.
 
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Buy both. They're two of my absolute favorite Euros. They are themed in such a way that they can be linked into a game night. Samurai plays 2-4, China 3-5. China has two rule sets (you can play with the original K&K rules if you want). Samurai has the coolest pieces ever. China is fast, fast, fast.

How can you choose only one?

 
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Buy both!
 
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Agree, buy both. Im my gaming circle, I just introduced K&K, and it went over well. Better than Samurai. Now that I have the English version of Samurai, maybe that will change.

While you're at it, start saving for the English version of Ra coming out this year. (Or purchase Razzia right now.)
 
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I'd have to agree that Samurai is probably more what you're looking for since it has no luck to speak of. But I'd rather play Kardinal und Konig, even with it's luck of the cards. I like the tough choices that come with trying to balance a majority of towns in the country/majority of controllers in two countries/long line of houses.
 
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Samurai is close to being out of print. China isn't quite available yet. Anyhow, if you decide that you want Samurai, now is the time to go for it.

BTW, of the two, I've only played Samurai, but it scales almost flawlessly from 2-4, has distinctive bits, and it is easy enough to learn while still offering plenty of depth. As the game progresses, the board fills with pieces and the tension gradually increases with each passing turn - I love that!

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Although Samurai looks beautiful, I thought it was an absolute bore to play. If I had held onto the game, it would have made a great display piece for my gaming room table, but I disliked the game so much that I traded it away.

However, China is a great game (assuming they didn't change it a whole lot from Web of Power). Lots of difficult decisions and tense moments with a dash of luck make it a great game!
 
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hmm samurai is becoming out of print? NOOO hehe.

Yea Razzia looks pretty good but i im deciding between razzia or RA and for sale
 
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Yeah yeah yeah...let me join the chorus...

samurai...hands down...
 
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I don't think its a slam dunk. They are both good games, and bring different things to the table.

K&K is a Euro that satisfied the "serious" gamers in my gaming group. These guys played Britania, The Napoleonic Wars etc., but K&K was on of the Euros that kept coming back the gaming table. A very good game.

Samurai is one of the first Euros I owned. It is elegant, significant other friendly, and has pretty good depth. However, I don't think would go over well with my gaming group.

I'd get both. If you're only getting one, and Samurai is going OOP, then get Samurai.
 
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