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Ethan Nicholas
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I have never played a wargame before, but I've had a fair amount of solo game time lately and am interested in trying a solo wargame. WTiD looks very interesting; it's much prettier than most of the wargames I have seen, and from skimming the rules it seems like it's attempting to be comprehensible.

Is this a good game to start with? What else should I be looking at?
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Can you get a copy? It's out of print.

It's also not as easy as it looks and takes quite some time (though if you have Windows, ZunTzu helps with that).

I found the basic game of B-29 Superfortress easier, and shorter, to play.
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dragonnyxx wrote:
I have never played a wargame before, but I've had a fair amount of solo game time lately and am interested in trying a solo wargame. WTiD looks very interesting; it's much prettier than most of the wargames I have seen, and from skimming the rules it seems like it's attempting to be comprehensible.

Is this a good game to start with? What else should I be looking at?

It depends what you're looking for in a wargame. My main concern is if you drop $100 on this game, don't like it, and you decide wargames aren't for you. WTiD is not very representative of wargames as a whole (it has much higher production value, hence cost, and is simpler, though you probably want to start simple). For that matter, solitaire wargames tend to be pretty special, often having unique mechanism that aren't in typical wargames. Therefore, if your intention is to get into wargames, they may not be the best introduction.

So, I return to the question: what are you looking for in a wargame?
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I don't have much in the way of traditional wargame experience. I do have an interest in them, and am drawn toward games that are fairly involved. I didn't have a very hard time understanding the rules, I just read the instructions a couple times before I played. The first couple times I played I referenced the rules and player aids frequently to make sure I was doing things correctly. I really enjoy the game and consider it to be one of the few treasures in my collection. I went into it expecting it to take some time and patience. It also takes a long time to play.

Hope that helps. If you're still interested in it, good luck getting a copy!
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Echo the advice about WITD not being terribly representative, so don't give up on the whole genre if if it doesn't work for you. I have yet to play it, so can't comment on the game itself

You did ask for some alternatives though. For solitaire yuo might like Raid on St. Nazaire. Pretty fascinating story which I only learned about when somebody recommended the game. Which is something I find a lot of in wargaming, the games tend to compliment my reading, and vice versa.

Also, don't be afraid to try a 2 player game solo, it actually works quite well, at least for the getting immersed in the subject, if not quite as competitive as face to face (FtF - might as well learn the lingo now)

Welcome aboard and enjoy!
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Yikes, should have checked prices before asking about this. Just figured with it being a 2009 game that it wouldn't be THAT bad to acquire

Thanks for the recommendations, guys!
 
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If you're looking for recent games, there's RAF: The Battle of Britain 1940 and D-Day at Omaha Beach by John Butterfield. I really like Raid on St. Nazaire, but I don't know how hard it would be to find.

I'm kind of turned off of B-29 (and B-17) right now. Those games are heavy on narrative and simulation detail, but pretty sparse in gaming decisions: stuff happens to you, and there's not much you can do about it but take it.
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If you dont mind playing both sides, there's always the FREE Valor & Victory
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fusag wrote:
If you're looking for recent games, there's RAF: The Battle of Britain 1940 and D-Day at Omaha Beach by John Butterfield. I really like Raid on St. Nazaire, but I don't know how hard it would be to find.

"Omaha Beach" has a steeper learning curve, but RAF isn't a bad choice. Maybe Ambush! for small unit ground combat, or Hornet Leader or Phantom Leader for air combat.
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Hornet Leader: Carrier Air Operations is a fantastic game. I've played two long U.S. Navy campaigns. The game missions presented me with tension and tough choices that I agonized over. It definitely drew me in. It was pretty easy to learn, as well. It's new and there's currently frequent support for it here on BGG if you have questions.
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