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Subject: Source of the damage of a weapon used in combat rss

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Pascal Bertrand
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Hello,

A question was asked on a forum:
Suppose a Succubus with a Tablot Chainsaw is in combat with Helena Merged.
Succubus' strike is to use the Talbot Chainsaw.
Helena handstrikes.

Does the Succubus' strike inflict damage on Helena?

Thanks,
Pascal.

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Succubus
Type: Ally
Requires: Tremere antitribu
Cost: 4 pool
Demon with 3 life. 1 strength, 0 bleed.
Damage from Succubus's hand strikes is aggravated. Succubus may steal 1 blood or life (gaining a life) from a minion as a +1 stealth (D) action. Once each turn, she may burn 1 life to get +1 bleed for the current action.

Helena Advanced
Clan: Toreador (group 3)
Capacity: 10
Disciplines: AUS CEL DOM dai obf pre tha
Advanced, Independent: Helena pays no blood costs for reaction cards that require Auspex [aus] or Dominate [dom]. Infernal.
[MERGED] Helena is immune to damage from demons and gains 1 level of Daimoinon [dai] and Obtenebration [obt].

Talbot's Chainsaw
Type: Equipment
Cost: 3 pool
Unique weapon.
Strike: 3 damage. If bearer is ready during your untap phase, a ready minion you control takes 3 unpreventable damage. Bearer cannot hunt. Bearer may enter combat with a minion controlled by another Methuselah as a +1 stealth (D) action. Bearer gets a press, only usable to continue combat on the first round, and may prevent up to 1 damage each combat.
 
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floppyzedolfin wrote:

Suppose a Succubus with any weapon is in combat with Helena Merged.
Succubus' strike is to use that weapon.

Does the Succubus' strike inflict damage on Helena?


No.
Damage inflicted by strikes are inflicted by the minion.
There is no strike that any demon can make that will result in Helena Merged taking damage.
 
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Pascal Bertrand
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They also remember where they come from (Armor of Vitality), but yeah, I was looking for something like that - it makes Rötschreck usable on Ivory Bow's strike.

Ah! I found the reference: [RTR 19970630]
 
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Remember that Succubus' power of stealing blood still works though. Stealing blood is the best defense for Tremere over Fortitude types for this very reason. Stealing blood is not counted as damage.
 
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